Probably have had a bunch of these questions.
I'm a Danish national, I want to go to Spain for a stay of 3 months or so. I'm married to a Cambodian and want to bring her. Do anyone have experience, if it is it as easy as this page says its supposed to be: SCHENGEN VISA FOR SPOUSES / FAMILY MEMBERS OF EU NATIONALS.
Additional I can supply documents of medical insurance and a place to stay in Spain. Not really a return ticket - or perhaps if I can find an open ticket. And I supposed bank account with some money. But would be loath to start to pay for all these things before I'm sure the visa can be acquired.
Schengen Visa
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No, this way your wife will most probably be denied a visa.
Look up the guidelines, don't browse backpacker's websites.
In your case, your wife's first entry, you wife will only be allowed a single entry visa for up to 90 days. Both the entry date and date of departure will be printed on the visa. Without at least a flight itinerary I think she will be denied a visa by the embassy. Even though she should be granted a visa the embassy will most probably conclude the risk of (over)staying is too large without a return ticket / travel itinerary and they will deny and just wait for her appeal.
The website you refer to says you and your wife can just show up at the border (international airport) of a Schengen airport with a wedding certificate and will be granted a visa on the spot. Also true - in theory. But no airline will take you there without a visa in your wife's passport, so pretty useless. If the Schengen authorities won't accept the wedding certificate on the spot, or they expect it's a fake wedding she will be deported at the airline's expense and the airline will be fined. No airline will take that risk.
Better look up the guidelines, provide the embassy with the documents needed (easy to look up) and get the valid visa in a few days and avoid all the hassle. This means a return ticket for your wife (or at least an itinerary you will follow) is needed. And yes, that means spending money because all documents in Khmer have to be translated by a trusted translator - usually Pyramid.
Look up the guidelines, don't browse backpacker's websites.
In your case, your wife's first entry, you wife will only be allowed a single entry visa for up to 90 days. Both the entry date and date of departure will be printed on the visa. Without at least a flight itinerary I think she will be denied a visa by the embassy. Even though she should be granted a visa the embassy will most probably conclude the risk of (over)staying is too large without a return ticket / travel itinerary and they will deny and just wait for her appeal.
The website you refer to says you and your wife can just show up at the border (international airport) of a Schengen airport with a wedding certificate and will be granted a visa on the spot. Also true - in theory. But no airline will take you there without a visa in your wife's passport, so pretty useless. If the Schengen authorities won't accept the wedding certificate on the spot, or they expect it's a fake wedding she will be deported at the airline's expense and the airline will be fined. No airline will take that risk.
Better look up the guidelines, provide the embassy with the documents needed (easy to look up) and get the valid visa in a few days and avoid all the hassle. This means a return ticket for your wife (or at least an itinerary you will follow) is needed. And yes, that means spending money because all documents in Khmer have to be translated by a trusted translator - usually Pyramid.
Last edited by Kachang on Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Because he wants to take her to Spain....DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Even though there's a Schengen visa, some countries also still have 'national visas', so don't confuse it up even more. If Denmark has a visa for Denmark, it will be a special visa for just Denmark for studies or work for instance.
Not sure about this last comment. The Schengen rules state that one is supposed to apply for a visa in the Schengen country where one will be spending most of the trip. I believe one has to provide an itinerary and booking confirmations.Kachang wrote:Because he wants to take her to Spain....DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Even though there's a Schengen visa, some countries also still have 'national visas', so don't confuse it up even more. If Denmark has a visa for Denmark, it will be a special visa for just Denmark for studies or work for instance.
OP, nobody can ever be sure a visa can be obtained but if you prepare your case well, you stand a very good chance. The key is to know exactly what is required.
Can prove we've known each other more than 12 months. But I'm not going to Denmark, and in fact haven't been living there for quite some time. The link I referred to also speaks of other rules for getting visa to your home country, and for other countries in Schengen.DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
I didn't mean that I'd just show up at the border. But that getting the visa through the embassy (German in PP) would be as easy as that. I don't know what other people are doing otherwise. I mean do people just buy flight tickets, medical insurance, hotels, etc. - and then hope the visa will go through?Kachang wrote:No, this way your wife will most probably be denied a visa.
Look up the guidelines, don't browse backpacker's websites.
In your case, your wife's first entry, you wife will only be allowed a single entry visa for up to 90 days. Both the entry date and date of departure will be printed on the visa. Without at least a flight itinerary I think she will be denied a visa by the embassy. Even though she should be granted a visa the embassy will most probably conclude the risk of (over)staying is too large without a return ticket / travel itinerary and they will deny and just wait for her appeal.
The website you refer to says you and your wife can just show up at the border (international airport) of a Schengen airport with a wedding certificate and will be granted a visa on the spot. Also true - in theory. But no airline will take you there without a visa in your wife's passport, so pretty useless. If the Schengen authorities won't accept the wedding certificate on the spot, or they expect it's a fake wedding she will be deported at the airline's expense and the airline will be fined. No airline will take that risk.
Better look up the guidelines, provide the embassy with the documents needed (easy to look up) and get the valid visa in a few days and avoid all the hassle. This means a return ticket for your wife (or at least an itinerary you will follow) is needed. And yes, that means spending money because all documents in Khmer have to be translated by a trusted translator - usually Pyramid.
There's no need to buy a ticket, just make an online booking and print the itinerary.
You might have to buy insurance though but it's not that expensive.
Accommodation...Same as the airline, book a cheap apart on Airbnb or booking, it can be cancelled at no cost.
You might have to buy insurance though but it's not that expensive.
Accommodation...Same as the airline, book a cheap apart on Airbnb or booking, it can be cancelled at no cost.
Not confusing it. Denmark is part of Schengen if you check it out. Have lived there myself for 20 years.Kachang wrote:Because he wants to take her to Spain....DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Even though there's a Schengen visa, some countries also still have 'national visas', so don't confuse it up even more. If Denmark has a visa for Denmark, it will be a special visa for just Denmark for studies or work for instance.
Its easier to make the application in your home state than in a foreign. Once you have the Schengen visa, then you are free to travel to any Schengen country, including Spain.
A Danish visa is not the same as a Schengen visa. If he wants to go to Spain and take his wife a single entry Schengen tourist visa will be the easiest to obtain for her. No need to go to the Danish embassy in Bangkok and burn money, the French embassy in PP will handle it all, together with the Spanish embassy in Bangkok. And if the OP's wife presents the necessary papers and a legal wedding certificate they will give out a visa in a few days free of charge.DF wrote:Not confusing it. Denmark is part of Schengen if you check it out. Have lived there myself for 20 years.Kachang wrote:Because he wants to take her to Spain....DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Even though there's a Schengen visa, some countries also still have 'national visas', so don't confuse it up even more. If Denmark has a visa for Denmark, it will be a special visa for just Denmark for studies or work for instance.
Its easier to make the application in your home state than in a foreign. Once you have the Schengen visa, then you are free to travel to any Schengen country, including Spain.
If the OP wants to do it his way and some documents are missing they will send his wife home without even processing the application.
Last edited by Kachang on Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
How easy obtaining the visa is, will depend on the documents your wife can show when she applies.Rune wrote:I didn't mean that I'd just show up at the border. But that getting the visa through the embassy (German in PP) would be as easy as that. I don't know what other people are doing otherwise. I mean do people just buy flight tickets, medical insurance, hotels, etc. - and then hope the visa will go through?
An itinerary will do, but medical insurance must be bought in advance, and your wife needs proof of having accommodation in the destination country. But there's more documents she'll have to show, an overview can be found on the German embassy's website.
If you two are legally married and have a wedding certificate the chances of her getting the visa will be well over 95%. If you're not legally married the two of you are in the twilight zone and the two of you need to proof to be in a 'long term relationship'. In Cambodia that's pretty hard, because you hardly have any legal documents to proof it. The chances of her getting a visa will be less in that case.
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OP, your wife has to apply at the French embassy, not the German, if Spain is her main destination in the Schengen zone. The website of the German embassy is a good start for looking for information though, they have comprehensive info and it's all available in English.
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99,9% cases you get Schengen visa if you are going to Denmark unless you have some very very specific reason to go Denmark. The rules says that you are supposed to stay majority of your stay in the country you apply the visa from. You can travel in Schengen states freely, but any schenged state can deny your entry if they like to. Me and my gf have extensivly travelled in Europe and never had any trouble. But in OP's case, you should be applying through Spanish embasssy (or which ever embassy handless Spanish matter in PP) if you intention is to stay in Spay most of the time.Kachang wrote:A Danish visa is not the same as a Schengen visa. If he wants to go to Spain and take his wife a single entry Schengen tourist visa will be the easiest to obtain for her. No need to go to the Danish embassy in Bangkok and burn money, the French embassy in PP will handle it all, together with the Spanish embassy in Bangkok. And if the OP's wife presents the necessary papers and a legal wedding certificate they will give out a visa in a few days free of charge.DF wrote:Not confusing it. Denmark is part of Schengen if you check it out. Have lived there myself for 20 years.Kachang wrote:Because he wants to take her to Spain....DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Even though there's a Schengen visa, some countries also still have 'national visas', so don't confuse it up even more. If Denmark has a visa for Denmark, it will be a special visa for just Denmark for studies or work for instance.
Its easier to make the application in your home state than in a foreign. Once you have the Schengen visa, then you are free to travel to any Schengen country, including Spain.
If the OP wants to do it his way and some documents are missing they will send his wife home without even processing the application.
It is not hard to prove you are in long term relationship. Simple invitation letter is enough where you state your relationship status and how long you have known and why you want to invite her.Kachang wrote:If you two are legally married and have a wedding certificate the chances of her getting the visa will be well over 95%. If you're not legally married the two of you are in the twilight zone and the two of you need to proof to be in a 'long term relationship'. In Cambodia that's pretty hard, because you hardly have any legal documents to proof it. The chances of her getting a visa will be less in that case.
And where to apply.QED wrote:Not sure about this last comment. The Schengen rules state that one is supposed to apply for a visa in the Schengen country where one will be spending most of the trip. I believe one has to provide an itinerary and booking confirmations.Kachang wrote:Because he wants to take her to Spain....DF wrote:Why not apply for a Danish visa, in person, at the Danish Embassy in Bangkok? Did you get married in Denmark, and if so how long ago? How long can you prove you have known each other?
Even though there's a Schengen visa, some countries also still have 'national visas', so don't confuse it up even more. If Denmark has a visa for Denmark, it will be a special visa for just Denmark for studies or work for instance.
OP, nobody can ever be sure a visa can be obtained but if you prepare your case well, you stand a very good chance. The key is to know exactly what is required.
You are indeed supposed to apply at the embassy of (or representing) the country you spend most of your time. The fact the OP has a Danish passport has nothing to do with where to apply.
In the OP's case his wife will spend most of the time in Spain. Spain has no embassy in Cambodia, but is represented by the French embassy so that's where the OP's wife has to go.
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