Are the Chinese taking over Sihanoukville?
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I know a few landlords, in PP admittedly. They have told me that they don’t want Chinese people in their houses. They have a reputation for not taking care of the place, not being able to maintain a relationship with landlord or neighbours and leaving the place in a mess at the end of the contract.
They’ve told me that they’d look to rent to a
Westerner first but if not possible they would rent to a Chinese person but for a higher rent.
I wonder if the higher rents have just become the norm after a few landlords put a higher price for Chinese and found that they were willing to pay it.
They’ve told me that they’d look to rent to a
Westerner first but if not possible they would rent to a Chinese person but for a higher rent.
I wonder if the higher rents have just become the norm after a few landlords put a higher price for Chinese and found that they were willing to pay it.
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I know some property managers here in Phnom Penh as well. They have told me that they've had Chinese come in and offer cash up front for a year rental on a luxury condo, but they have turned down the offer, for all of the reasons you stated above. Is that racist? I guess technically, but when it's your business and you get burned time and time again, I understand it.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:I know a few landlords, in PP admittedly. They have told me that they don’t want Chinese people in their houses. They have a reputation for not taking care of the place, not being able to maintain a relationship with landlord or neighbours and leaving the place in a mess at the end of the contract.
They’ve told me that they’d look to rent to a
Westerner first but if not possible they would rent to a Chinese person but for a higher rent.
I wonder if the higher rents have just become the norm after a few landlords put a higher price for Chinese and found that they were willing to pay it.
Those animals smoke in shared spaces like lobbies and elevators and they spit and litter. Who wants them in their house?
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That probably isn't really Racism if the owner is Khmer (Maybe even Sino-Khmer of which there are hundreds of thousands in Cambodia) and the perspective rentee is Chinese, they are both Asians. There are other words that far better explain that. Prejudice, ethnocentrism, bigotry, ignorance whatever take your pick.Miguelito wrote:I know some property managers here in Phnom Penh as well. They have told me that they've had Chinese come in and offer cash up front for a year rental on a luxury condo, but they have turned down the offer, for all of the reasons you stated above. Is that racist? I guess technically, but when it's your business and you get burned time and time again, I understand it.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:I know a few landlords, in PP admittedly. They have told me that they don’t want Chinese people in their houses. They have a reputation for not taking care of the place, not being able to maintain a relationship with landlord or neighbours and leaving the place in a mess at the end of the contract.
They’ve told me that they’d look to rent to a
Westerner first but if not possible they would rent to a Chinese person but for a higher rent.
I wonder if the higher rents have just become the norm after a few landlords put a higher price for Chinese and found that they were willing to pay it.
But could it be construed as racist that the owner of our little expat site here doesn't seem to mind or at the least tolerates having "Chink" in the fucking titles of some of our threads?
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You forgot defecate/urinate in public spaces from time to time too.Alexandra wrote:Those animals smoke in shared spaces like lobbies and elevators and they spit and litter. Who wants them in their house?
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Maybe the blueprint for such a takeover was formed from doing the same sort of thing in Africa, like Angola where whole ''ghost'' cities were built by the Chinese a few years ago.
Mugabe is said to have siphoned of millions from Chinese money.
If they are in Africa for the resources then i wonder if it's not just about the casinos here, but also about the ports which could become an important trade route from China?
I see very little in the way of Chinese tourists here. The casino workers are easy to spot as they usually walk in groups 4 or 5 wide taking up all the road, head down looking at smartphones. Whereas us British obviously like single file.
A khmer dude with a well paying office type job was asking me what i pay for my place the other week (after i said i'm moving out) as he said he cannot afford to live here anymore and is off to Kampot as it's cheaper and less busy. The bike shop guy said he doesn't order many bikes now as there's just not enough barang buyers here anymore.
Mugabe is said to have siphoned of millions from Chinese money.
If they are in Africa for the resources then i wonder if it's not just about the casinos here, but also about the ports which could become an important trade route from China?
I see very little in the way of Chinese tourists here. The casino workers are easy to spot as they usually walk in groups 4 or 5 wide taking up all the road, head down looking at smartphones. Whereas us British obviously like single file.
A khmer dude with a well paying office type job was asking me what i pay for my place the other week (after i said i'm moving out) as he said he cannot afford to live here anymore and is off to Kampot as it's cheaper and less busy. The bike shop guy said he doesn't order many bikes now as there's just not enough barang buyers here anymore.
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McPhisto wrote:And it's the casinos paying for all this Chinese largess? I don't get the end game here. Why would anybody willingly pay that much more over current market value? Are the casinos raking it in that much? Almost all reports I hear are that they casinos in SHV are all but empty of patrons most of the time. If it's more about online gambling and/or telemarketing scams, then why pick SHV, as those setups can be run from cheaper, more remote locations as long as they have internet access? I get that the Chinese play the long game, and are building the infrastructure for continued tourism expansion from the mainland, but why be so carefree with the expenditures now?LaudJohn wrote:Well, I finally got chinesed. Landlord is getting 5 Times the rent I paid. Managed to get a place half the size for twice the rent and it is a mates rate.
The going rental for studio apartments (approx 25sqm) is $500 per month that the Chinese pay in SHV now.
This is where somebody inevitably posts about Chinese money laundering. But still how does willingly paying 5x what the previous tenants were paying to a Khmer landlord makes sense?
A couple of things to consider. Under Cambodian Law, online gaming requires a physical licensed Casino to operate out of. As for location, there's a 200km exclusion zone from Naga in PP until 2035, not including border casinos and Bokor.
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So you claiming that 1.5 Billion people piss and shit in the streets in public is not racist.kansaicanuck wrote:You forgot defecate/urinate in public spaces from time to time too.Alexandra wrote:Those animals smoke in shared spaces like lobbies and elevators and they spit and litter. Who wants them in their house?
But someone jist using the word 'Chink' is a racist ?
Umm'kay ...
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Exactly.Playboy wrote:So you claiming that 1.5 Billion people piss and shit in the streets in public is not racist.kansaicanuck wrote:You forgot defecate/urinate in public spaces from time to time too.Alexandra wrote:Those animals smoke in shared spaces like lobbies and elevators and they spit and litter. Who wants them in their house?
But someone jist using the word 'Chink' is a racist ?
Umm'kay ...
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So how come Canuck is not an offensive term for those Maple Syrup Fetishist Moose Botherers living in America's baseball cap ?kansaicanuck wrote:Exactly.Playboy wrote:So you claiming that 1.5 Billion people piss and shit in the streets in public is not racist.kansaicanuck wrote:You forgot defecate/urinate in public spaces from time to time too.Alexandra wrote:Those animals smoke in shared spaces like lobbies and elevators and they spit and litter. Who wants them in their house?
But someone jist using the word 'Chink' is a racist ?
Umm'kay ...
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Canucks is still cute and endearing to us syrup sucking iceholes. Calling Chinese people Chinks isn't anymore.Playboy wrote:So how come Canuck is not an offensive term for those Maple Syrup Fetishist Moose Botherers living in America's baseball cap ?kansaicanuck wrote:Exactly.Playboy wrote:So you claiming that 1.5 Billion people piss and shit in the streets in public is not racist.kansaicanuck wrote:You forgot defecate/urinate in public spaces from time to time too.Alexandra wrote:Those animals smoke in shared spaces like lobbies and elevators and they spit and litter. Who wants them in their house?
But someone jist using the word 'Chink' is a racist ?
Umm'kay ...
By the way, leave our Moose outta this!
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