Cost for construction
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Really good thread this - thanks to those providing all the useful info.
We're looking at a Western style build, possibly next year. I was wondering what people do for mosquito control?
Can you source fly screens for windows that fit properly? Detachable ones for cleaning with the wire type mesh would be ideal.
Also, what do you use/recommend for entry doors? Any ideas of costs? Best lock up solutions?
I've seen new houses built here, then nails banged in the walls to hold up mosquito nets at night.
We're looking at a Western style build, possibly next year. I was wondering what people do for mosquito control?
Can you source fly screens for windows that fit properly? Detachable ones for cleaning with the wire type mesh would be ideal.
Also, what do you use/recommend for entry doors? Any ideas of costs? Best lock up solutions?
I've seen new houses built here, then nails banged in the walls to hold up mosquito nets at night.
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Is the consensus here that Pedros' place is "well Western"? I mean, he had the choice to dictate the specs, and said "I want tile halfway up the walls and wiring outside the walls with conduits 3/4 of the way from the ceiling to the floor and nothing in the kitchen but a sink"
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No, I liked about well western, well, I mean it's not a Khmer hovel, kinda like a hybrid. Let's not forget I'm a lowly tefler, so my standards are not particularly high.
Doors are something Mrs p didn't hold back on.... I'm happy with metal/glass to save costs, but we somehow ended up with very nice solid wood front double doors and room doors, with the cheaper 'standard' doors at the 2 back entrances.
I'm not sure of the exact price (she wouldn't tell me), but doubt there was much change from $1500.
When the boss comes back from market, I'll see if she can give me an itemised list, which might be helpful to some.
Doors are something Mrs p didn't hold back on.... I'm happy with metal/glass to save costs, but we somehow ended up with very nice solid wood front double doors and room doors, with the cheaper 'standard' doors at the 2 back entrances.
I'm not sure of the exact price (she wouldn't tell me), but doubt there was much change from $1500.
When the boss comes back from market, I'll see if she can give me an itemised list, which might be helpful to some.
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Oh, and I had next to 0 input in the details or design, I was too busy working more jobs than a Jamaican to pay for the thing.....
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Yes I did not mean to speak poorly about your house, but by "well Western" I thought you were claiming it was, well, Western, not a "hybrid." I mean, I've been in brick houses owned by Khmers before, and that's what it looks like.
I don't see anything western there. Just say, "I have a Khmer style brick house with Khmer kitchen and Khmer bathroom."
I don't see anything western there. Just say, "I have a Khmer style brick house with Khmer kitchen and Khmer bathroom."
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A sit down shitter, well 2.... Not a squatter like I had when I first moved here.
My prideful boasts of well western were obviously ill judged, so retract and say well built Khmer house with some western features.
I got excited over a thread I actually had very recent experience with and let myself get carried away with my desire to impress the ballers and the big boys in the cabal. I feel like I've let everyone down, and apologize to all who have read this thread.
I haven't stepped foot in a western house for years, so perhaps my memory is going, but then the last 'western' house I lived in was a crumbling 300 year old cottage in some woods in central Europe, which was far from decadent.
My prideful boasts of well western were obviously ill judged, so retract and say well built Khmer house with some western features.
I got excited over a thread I actually had very recent experience with and let myself get carried away with my desire to impress the ballers and the big boys in the cabal. I feel like I've let everyone down, and apologize to all who have read this thread.
I haven't stepped foot in a western house for years, so perhaps my memory is going, but then the last 'western' house I lived in was a crumbling 300 year old cottage in some woods in central Europe, which was far from decadent.
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I like your place Pedro,
And for those making noise - please tell me what Western standard = ???
And for those making noise - please tell me what Western standard = ???
I refuse to go out with nothing more than a whimper followed by a small farting sound and a shit stain on my bed sheets..
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Just thought I'd share that with you.
In all my years in Cambodia working around the building game and trades etc I only ever saw one truly western standard house. And that only happened because the owner was in the business, imported foreign building products right down to the wiring and switches, plumbing fittings etc. He also had a khmer builder who had a proven track record of higher end residential builds and a western PM based on-site.scoffer wrote:I like your place Pedro,
And for those making noise - please tell me what Western standard = ???
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Ok, here we go, regardless of whether my Manor is western/Khmer or hybrid, a break down of the costs for a 96m2 house, of which I am more than satisfied with..... Especially as the neighbours live in wooden shacks.
Construction labour - $3000
Cement - $2000
Pillars - $380
Roof (metal) - $2000 inc labour
Tiles floor 96m/wall 116m -$1400
Outside tiles -$32
Wood door front -$700
Wood door rooms- $510
Door frames - $300
Back doors - $200
Windows- $770
Bathroom fittings-$100
Toilet doors - $160
Water connection -$80
Ceiling boards -$830
Electrical connections and lights - $700
Gate - $250
Wall- $720
Bricks (20,000) - $720
Plaster - $200
Paint in and out - $400
Outside cement patio- $200
Other odds and sods that can't remember probably around $1000-1500
Equals around $17,000
Construction labour - $3000
Cement - $2000
Pillars - $380
Roof (metal) - $2000 inc labour
Tiles floor 96m/wall 116m -$1400
Outside tiles -$32
Wood door front -$700
Wood door rooms- $510
Door frames - $300
Back doors - $200
Windows- $770
Bathroom fittings-$100
Toilet doors - $160
Water connection -$80
Ceiling boards -$830
Electrical connections and lights - $700
Gate - $250
Wall- $720
Bricks (20,000) - $720
Plaster - $200
Paint in and out - $400
Outside cement patio- $200
Other odds and sods that can't remember probably around $1000-1500
Equals around $17,000
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Speaking of doors, has anyone else noticed that no doors in Cambodia close properly? They either stick or they are way too loose and bounce/rattle.pedros wrote: Doors are something Mrs p didn't hold back on.... I'm happy with metal/glass to save costs, but we somehow ended up with very nice solid wood front double doors and room doors, with the cheaper 'standard' doors at the 2 back entrances.
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we have built a few homes here over the years, as well as full remodels of apartments and bars.Klaus069 wrote:I have a piece of land near Kampong Cham and would like to build a western style
House around 100 sum, one floor, two bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom
Could anybody tell me roughly something about the cost per sqm. Quality should be
be good.
Does anybody know a builder in the Kampong Chang Area who is reliable and experienced
Thank you.
home construction costs have gone up considerably in the past few years, mostly due to all of the amenities now available.
bricks and stone and sand and cement haven't changed so much. steel fluctuates a little.
but it's seems for use the increase in costs are a direct result of more choices.
more choices in tile (if you can believe it).
more choices in plumbing and electrical materials and fixtures.
a far greater choice of roof systems are now available as well as the ever rising cost of wood all contribute to higher costs.
labor has gone up as well, but unfortunately it is still very hard to find many skilled tradesmen.
i have 30 years experience in designing and construction and with that used to be able to build some pretty nice little homes for people at around $150M2.
those days are gone however.
a realistic budget for what you are looking for would be what many have already said.... about $300M2.
that's with some very nice features such as a pressurized hot water system and nice kitchen cabinets and counter tops.
i typically budget in light fixtures and plumbing fixtures and if the client wants to step up it's easy to make the additional figures.
i do not include appliances or furniture.
start with a good design and it is easier to breakdown and do a budget so you can see where you might want to spend a little less or maybe a little more.
remember, if this is your retirement home or where you plan to settle down and raise a family, it's always best to wait until you have everything in place. do it once do it right.
the few things i would recommend buying a.s.a.p is your wood for whatever you are having made, such as doors and door jams, cabinets and such.
wodd is getting more expensive every day and it's never too early to get a stack drying under some tarps.
good luck with your project.
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that's because the do not allow their wood to dry.gavinmac wrote:Speaking of doors, has anyone else noticed that no doors in Cambodia close properly? They either stick or they are way too loose and bounce/rattle.pedros wrote: Doors are something Mrs p didn't hold back on.... I'm happy with metal/glass to save costs, but we somehow ended up with very nice solid wood front double doors and room doors, with the cheaper 'standard' doors at the 2 back entrances.
i wait at least 2 seasons and am building doors out of wood i have been drying for 3 years.
just need to be smarter then the wood.
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