No, I didn’t miss anything. That was two years ago. No one has been shot.v12 wrote:You missed 2 years' ago protests when the CNRP guy Kem Ley got shot as well as last years' protest marches just before the local commune elections ?YaTingPom wrote:Nothing’s going to happen, apart from a few isolated skirmishes. Young Cambodians don’t want to upset the Apple cart - just yet.
Give it a few years and things may be different.
Certainly, the CNRP got decapitated recently, though that does not imply, other people will not stand-up, less visible, and start to organise things.
A lot of people are quite unhappy with the way the big man is organising the country, even with the economic boom going on now. The boom wealth largely goes to the rich people in tow of the big man and the poor people "benefit" from this with higher pricing for nearly everything.
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Ok the context. I know a member of the cnrp that is currently overseas. Not a party leader or anything, just a member. They are scared that if they return to Cambodia they will be arrested. Is that a reasonable fear? My feeling is that they couldn't arrest everyone that is associated with cnrp. Are they being persecuted, arrested, detained etc?
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Here is the context to Khmer people.Etraveller wrote:Ok the context. I know a member of the cnrp that is currently overseas. Not a party leader or anything, just a member. They are scared that if they return to Cambodia they will be arrested. Is that a reasonable fear? My feeling is that they couldn't arrest everyone that is associated with cnrp. Are they being persecuted, arrested, detained etc?
They (generally) love a conspiracy theory, gossip, rumour and sensationalism.
I’ve lost count of the number of far fetched tales I have been told in all sincerity by my Khmer friends.
Sounds like he/she is just scaremongering to get sympathy. Did they share this info via FB?Etraveller wrote:Ok the context. I know a member of the cnrp that is currently overseas. Not a party leader or anything, just a member. They are scared that if they return to Cambodia they will be arrested. Is that a reasonable fear? My feeling is that they couldn't arrest everyone that is associated with cnrp. Are they being persecuted, arrested, detained etc?
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Well, looks to me you really missed something. Kem Ley got shot, the protests afterwards were pretty grim. The protests last year the same. And yep, I was there myself (not as a participant, though just by coincident crossing/mingling in those locations). When 200000+ people do protest, it's quite a happening.YaTingPom wrote:No, I didn’t miss anything. That was two years ago. No one has been shot.v12 wrote:You missed 2 years' ago protests when the CNRP guy Kem Ley got shot as well as last years' protest marches just before the local commune elections ?YaTingPom wrote:Nothing’s going to happen, apart from a few isolated skirmishes. Young Cambodians don’t want to upset the Apple cart - just yet.
Give it a few years and things may be different.
Certainly, the CNRP got decapitated recently, though that does not imply, other people will not stand-up, less visible, and start to organise things.
A lot of people are quite unhappy with the way the big man is organising the country, even with the economic boom going on now. The boom wealth largely goes to the rich people in tow of the big man and the poor people "benefit" from this with higher pricing for nearly everything.
You’re taking 1 adding 1 and coming up with 3.
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So just to be clear, you people think they are safe to return and may be exaggerating the impact of the protests, the arrests of party leadership etc on the general members? They said that cnrp asylum seekers in Thailand were returned to Siem reap only to be arrested and jailed.
YaTingPom wrote:You’re taking 1 adding 1 and coming up with 3.
The answer is definitely eleven.
All the way up to...Duncan wrote:YaTingPom wrote:You’re taking 1 adding 1 and coming up with 3.
The answer is definitely eleven.
Cambodian speakers go up to 13.
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Nop, some 200000+ angry though peacefully protesting Cambodians, who have little to lose, when things turn haywire.Duncan wrote:YaTingPom wrote:You’re taking 1 adding 1 and coming up with 3.
The answer is definitely eleven.
v12 wrote:Nop, some 200000+ angry though peacefully protesting Cambodians, who have little to lose, when things turn haywire.Duncan wrote:YaTingPom wrote:You’re taking 1 adding 1 and coming up with 3.
The answer is definitely eleven.
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I was here during all that, I drove past where Kem Lay got shot an hour or two after it happened. You obviously weren't here, because there were no protests after he got shot. There was a large show out for his funeral procession, but that's not the same thing. There were no notable protests last year either, you're obviously just some clueless provocateur from abroad.v12 wrote:Well, looks to me you really missed something. Kem Ley got shot, the protests afterwards were pretty grim. The protests last year the same. And yep, I was there myself (not as a participant, though just by coincident crossing/mingling in those locations). When 200000+ people do protest, it's quite a happening.YaTingPom wrote:No, I didn’t miss anything. That was two years ago. No one has been shot.v12 wrote:You missed 2 years' ago protests when the CNRP guy Kem Ley got shot as well as last years' protest marches just before the local commune elections ?YaTingPom wrote:Nothing’s going to happen, apart from a few isolated skirmishes. Young Cambodians don’t want to upset the Apple cart - just yet.
Give it a few years and things may be different.
Certainly, the CNRP got decapitated recently, though that does not imply, other people will not stand-up, less visible, and start to organise things.
A lot of people are quite unhappy with the way the big man is organising the country, even with the economic boom going on now. The boom wealth largely goes to the rich people in tow of the big man and the poor people "benefit" from this with higher pricing for nearly everything.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Actually, I got locked up in the traffic jams on Monivong, shortly after he was shot down, when his body was brought on a regular pickup truck to one of the Wat, IIRC it was Wat Phnom. Sihanouk Blvd was closed off towards the Independence Monument by military police. M12 calling around what happened, and it was being aired on TV and facebook.Lucky Lucan wrote:....I was here during all that, I drove past where Kem Lay got shot an hour or two after it happened.
Yes, there were massive protest, around the Wat Phnom area. I gave M12 some USD 30 to attend the "memorial" and protests with her friends. I am not sure, whether that was the day after or 2 days after. If have heard figures of 100000 people around there. M12 couldn't move forward or backward over there and was afraid to use her phone, because it might be stolen.Lucky Lucan wrote:You obviously weren't here, because there were no protests after he got shot.
Yep, the funeral was an even more impressive happening, a huge procession all the way to (IIRC) Kompong Speu, or around there.Lucky Lucan wrote:There was a large show out for his funeral procession, but that's not the same thing.
Hmmm, you forgot the massive CNRP rally, throughout the whole city, where participants were all wearing a white cap as a symbol ? After the rally, I did have 3-4 of those laying around in the house. Again some USD 50 donation for M12 and family.Lucky Lucan wrote:There were no notable protests last year either, you're obviously just some clueless provocateur from abroad.
Many, many tense CNRP - government interactions, to get permission and get into agreement on the effective route. Not to speak about the unrest the days before and after that march. I got stuck in the march around the Toul Kork radio tower.
M12 did not want me to come to Cambodia around that time, because of the expected political struggles, though I found it not that much worrying, so came to Cambodia anyway.
Maybe I know about these things, because I live among Khmers in stead of a Western bubble, when I am in Cambodia.
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Lucky Lucan is probably the last person on this forum you should be firing that shot at.v12 wrote: Maybe I know about these things, because I live among Khmers in stead of a Western bubble, when I am in Cambodia.
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