Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby shizzle » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:24 am

And gun sales in Colorado are up 41% since the shooting.
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Felgerkarb » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:28 am

Strange how this statistic appeared so quickly when the shooting occurred technically very early on a Saturday. I saw this quoted on a Monday. Hmmm...
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby shizzle » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:38 am

Felgerkarb wrote:Strange how this statistic appeared so quickly when the shooting occurred technically very early on a Saturday.

Friday morning, not Saturday morning.

Felgerkarb wrote:I saw this quoted on a Monday.

I've just gone through Google News and found the earliest report to be 15 hours ago (Tuesday).
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Spigzy » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:58 am

Just because gun ownership is in the constitution doesn't make it right in this day and age. Times have changed, the constitution should change. Sick to the teeth of reading arguments about why people need to have guns, for self defence, for sport, blah, blah ... they don't. The military and police, sure, that's their job and 99.99% of the time they do it well (yes, there are still nutcases in those organisations too).

And yes, even if you ban guns, people will still kill people - we've been doing it since day 1. Why, however, make it even easier for somebody to kill a large number of people in one go? Ok, this nut job would still have taken a knife or home-made bomb to kill people - but hundreds of bullets; the only thing that stopped this guy killing more is that he was a tool and couldn't work out how to clear a jam.

You can't stop people killing people, but you can make it a lot harder for somebody to kill a LOT of people. Ban guns, all of them. Hold a gun moritorium, anybody thereafter who is not police/military seen wielding a gun should be shot on sight by the police/military (in self defence of course). And Canadians.

Wasn't really considering posting anything on 440 on this to be honest, but the bullshit CNN/BBC/media interviews with pro/anti-gun 'experts' has been driving me mad. Jeremy Paxman wouldn't put up with this shit.

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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Felgerkarb » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:14 am

shizzle wrote:
Felgerkarb wrote:Strange how this statistic appeared so quickly when the shooting occurred technically very early on a Saturday.

Friday morning, not Saturday morning.

Felgerkarb wrote:I saw this quoted on a Monday.

I've just gone through Google News and found the earliest report to be 15 hours ago (Tuesday).



ABC news had it Monday afternoon. Google can suck it.
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby cambod » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:29 am

Chuangt2u wrote:Very well said, George.


Agreed. Civilians need bigger guns.
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby cambod » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:36 am

Spigzy wrote:....

You can't stop people killing people, but you can make it a lot harder for somebody to kill a LOT of people. Ban guns, all of them. Hold a gun moritorium, anybody thereafter who is not police/military seen wielding a gun should be shot on sight by the police/military (in self defence of course). And Canadians.

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Then the nutters will just use more homemade bombs. Americans are just killers.
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Spigzy » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:55 am

cambod wrote:
Spigzy wrote:....

You can't stop people killing people, but you can make it a lot harder for somebody to kill a LOT of people. Ban guns, all of them. Hold a gun moritorium, anybody thereafter who is not police/military seen wielding a gun should be shot on sight by the police/military (in self defence of course). And Canadians.

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Then the nutters will just use more homemade bombs. Americans are just killers.


True, but still more clunky than a few clips for an automatic assault rifle that you can tuck in your belt! (Glad that we agree on the Canadian thing :D )
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Felgerkarb » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:09 pm

cambod wrote:
Spigzy wrote:....

You can't stop people killing people, but you can make it a lot harder for somebody to kill a LOT of people. Ban guns, all of them. Hold a gun moritorium, anybody thereafter who is not police/military seen wielding a gun should be shot on sight by the police/military (in self defence of course). And Canadians.

...


Then the nutters will just use more homemade bombs. Americans are just killers.


You're next. :axe:
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Postby cambod » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:52 pm

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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby RobW » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:26 pm

You can buy guns but not fireworks in the States??
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby cambod » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:30 pm

RobW wrote:You can buy guns but not fireworks in the States??


In many States, yes. God forbid someone lose a finger lighting a bottle rocket.

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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby vladimir » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:56 pm

I'm still trying to find out how it is that a 6 year old girl was attending a midnight movie with her 13 year old babysitter. What were the parents thinking? And isn't admission to the movie in question restricted?
Another point: Clinton banned assault rifles, the ban expired, Obama doesn't have the balls to stand up and be counted, and yoyo Romney is too busy sorting his money data out. How much is too much?
It's one thing having a gun for self-defence, but no-one questions a guy buying an assault rifle/ two Glocks/etc? Is he expecting Godzilla?
Everyone jokes that anything is for sale in Cambodia, but it seems the gun manufacturers/ dealers in the US are kings of the castle. :-D
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Felgerkarb » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:12 pm

Damn right, and if you don't like it I will blow you away.
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Re: Colorado nutter kills 14, injures 50 in cinema.

Postby Uncle Monty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:19 am

As gun ownership in the US is such a big issue, why did nobody in the cinema fire back?
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