Are you for real ?Nirvana wrote:Also, Gav, there was no "robbery," but there may have been an instance of shoplifting. It wasn't particularly violent either; the clerk put his hands on Brown and then Brown put his hands on him. The clerk wasn't even bothered enough to call the cops.
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Wasn't his store looted after the video was released?Lucky Seven wrote:Are you for real ?Nirvana wrote:Also, Gav, there was no "robbery," but there may have been an instance of shoplifting. It wasn't particularly violent either; the clerk put his hands on Brown and then Brown put his hands on him. The clerk wasn't even bothered enough to call the cops.
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These are facts. What is your problem with it?Lucky Seven wrote:Are you for real ?Nirvana wrote:Also, Gav, there was no "robbery," but there may have been an instance of shoplifting. It wasn't particularly violent either; the clerk put his hands on Brown and then Brown put his hands on him. The clerk wasn't even bothered enough to call the cops.
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Kinda goes against the "facts" put out for a week by the media that he was a gentle giant of a teddy bear that never did anything wrong.Nirvana wrote:These are facts. What is your problem with it?Lucky Seven wrote:Are you for real ?Nirvana wrote:Also, Gav, there was no "robbery," but there may have been an instance of shoplifting. It wasn't particularly violent either; the clerk put his hands on Brown and then Brown put his hands on him. The clerk wasn't even bothered enough to call the cops.
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So you are for real.Nirvana wrote:These are facts. What is your problem with it?Lucky Seven wrote:Are you for real ?Nirvana wrote:Also, Gav, there was no "robbery," but there may have been an instance of shoplifting. It wasn't particularly violent either; the clerk put his hands on Brown and then Brown put his hands on him. The clerk wasn't even bothered enough to call the cops.
Robbery bad .... shoplifting ok ?
You can't see the difference between a store owner wanting to be paid and a thief intimidating the store keeper into letting him go ?
Who you calling when you find a thief in your home ?
LOL, this is always the Right-Wing response when the media doesn't fall over themselves to congratulate the gunman when a black man (or woman in Reneisha McBride's case) is shot dead in questionable circumstances. Never mind that "the media" never did anything of the sort, that the focus quickly went from the shooting of the unarmed man to the false report that protesters were yelling, "KILL THE POLICE!" to the over-reporting (and over-representation) of the looting then quickly to the footage from the party store (which the police didn't seek until days after Brown was shot dead, and released it to the media). There was little focus on the fact that the looters were mostly outsiders and how many locals actually helped guard businesses.Felgerkarb wrote:
Kinda goes against the "facts" put out for a week by the media that he was a gentle giant of a teddy bear that never did anything wrong.
Yes, that's what I said! Just like "the media" spent a week calling Michael Brown a cuddly-wuddly Teddy Bear saint!Lucky Seven wrote:
So you are for real.
Robbery bad .... shoplifting ok ?
But seriously, don't start pearl-clutching over shoplifting. If people like you thought it was bad enough on it's own then you wouldn't feel the need to get all bent out of shape and put words in my mouth when I make a point.
However since you care so much about it why don't you watch the other part of the video? You can see him hand the clerk the cash. It appears Brown obnoxiously reached over and grabbed something which he sets back down; that may have prompted the clerk to come around and prevent him from leaving.
http://sfbayview.com/2014/08/mike-brown ... se-cigars/
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/fergu ... seems-show
To reiterate (from the article):
Really though, maybe he did steal. What if? What does that have to do with anything? He wasn't shot for maybe stealing cigars. He wasn't shot for grabbing a clerk's shirt.Supposedly, the video shows Brown robbing the store, taking a box of cigars. However, the attorney for Ferguson Market says that it was not anyone from the store that called police to report a robbery. In fact, a customer called to report what he viewed as a robbery.
I'll laugh and help him look for money, how do you like them apples?!Who you calling when you find a thief in your home ?
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Nirvana wrote:LOL, this is always the Right-Wing response when the media doesn't fall over themselves to congratulate the gunman when a black man (or woman in Reneisha McBride's case) is shot dead in questionable circumstances. Never mind that "the media" never did anything of the sort, that the focus quickly went from the shooting of the unarmed man to the false report that protesters were yelling, "KILL THE POLICE!" to the over-reporting (and over-representation) of the looting then quickly to the footage from the party store (which the police didn't seek until days after Brown was shot dead, and released it to the media). There was little focus on the fact that the looters were mostly outsiders and how many locals actually helped guard businesses.Felgerkarb wrote:
Kinda goes against the "facts" put out for a week by the media that he was a gentle giant of a teddy bear that never did anything wrong.
The right wing response? I heard it for a week before actual facts came out.
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Doesn't sound like an easy job being a St Louis cop though. It makes a Cambodian traffic cop job look like a summer holiday.
East St. Louis rated country's most dangerous city
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/East-St- ... 88731.html
St. Louis youth gunshot death rate second highest in U.S. (2011)
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... f6878.html
Crime statistics for Missouri for 2012 ;
http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWe ... meInMO.pdf
32.4% of all 2012 murder arrests were of white adults and 60.5% were of black adults.
55.7% of all 2012 robbery arrests were black adults and 25.0% were white adults.
Of all hate crime incidents reported in 2012, 64 or 60.4% were anti-race. Of these incidents, 67.2% were anti-black.
30.5% of all 2012 murder victims were white adults and 55.0% were black adults.
51.1% of all 2012 arson arrests were of white adults and 15.1% were of black adults.
60.6% of all 2012 motor vehicle theft arrests were of white adults and 22.4% were of black adults.
30.5% of all 2012 murder victims were white adults and 55.0% were black adults.
54.6% of all 2012 burglary arrests were of white adults and 26.6% were of black adults.
East St. Louis rated country's most dangerous city
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/East-St- ... 88731.html
St. Louis youth gunshot death rate second highest in U.S. (2011)
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... f6878.html
Crime statistics for Missouri for 2012 ;
http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWe ... meInMO.pdf
32.4% of all 2012 murder arrests were of white adults and 60.5% were of black adults.
55.7% of all 2012 robbery arrests were black adults and 25.0% were white adults.
Of all hate crime incidents reported in 2012, 64 or 60.4% were anti-race. Of these incidents, 67.2% were anti-black.
30.5% of all 2012 murder victims were white adults and 55.0% were black adults.
51.1% of all 2012 arson arrests were of white adults and 15.1% were of black adults.
60.6% of all 2012 motor vehicle theft arrests were of white adults and 22.4% were of black adults.
30.5% of all 2012 murder victims were white adults and 55.0% were black adults.
54.6% of all 2012 burglary arrests were of white adults and 26.6% were of black adults.
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Very revealing crime stats. They certainly don't show any bias . I wonder if the good citizens of Missouri are aware of them.
You "read somewhere"? You're on my Facebook, aren't you? Is that where you read it? Like where you probably read about the beating death of a white homeless man named Kelly Thomas? I cried my eyes out, and I was happy to hear that one of the murderous cops responsible for his death was booed out of a bar when people discovered who he was. Do you remember when I posted about that? Or how about when my cousin's white fiancee was beaten in Detroit after making a wrong turn and crashing? The way those young black girls were crying and screaming for the adult black guys to stop beating him but Nathan told them to not get involved because he was afraid they'd get hurt? Do you actually care or are you bringing it up out of convenience? Or how about when the police would deliberately mess with my (white) boyfriend after he was out on parole trying to get his life together? You know damn well how I'd feel about something like that. But I don't see anybody here trying to make any of that okay.Starving Pelican wrote:Nirvana, I read somewhere that a black cop shot an unarmed white kid in utah. What are your views on that? Honest question.
I know what people are doing here. It isn't going to work. There is a huge problem with police in the United States and a big part of the problem is racial.
Here's yet another thing -
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/ind ... t_emu.html
But let me guess: the 57 year-old is lying.Oklahoma City police officer and former Eastern Michigan University football standout Daniel Ken Holtzclaw was arrested Thursday afternoon after being accused of sexually assaulting at least seven women from February 2014 through June 2014 while serving as an on-duty officer.
Holtzclaw, a 27-year-old Enid, Oklahoma, native who attended EMU from 2005 to 2008 on a football scholarship, is being held in the Oklahoma County Jail on $5 million bond.
The arrest warrant -- authorized by a judge shortly before the arrest was made -- alleges that Holtzclaw was wanted for first-degree rape, rape by instrumentation, three counts of forcible oral sodomy, two counts of sexual battery and two counts of indecent exposure.
Charges are expected to be filed Friday, Aug. 29, and police said he could face life in prison without the possibility of parole if he's convicted.
"We received a complaint and also uncovered a number of other individuals, females, that had experienced the same thing with this officer," Oklahoma City Chief of Police Bill Citty said during a Thursday evening press conference.
"All his victims were black females and they range in the ages of 34 to 58. Right now I've identified seven (women), six of whom we've received statements from and one we're still attempting to get statements from. So you have seven total over a period of five or six months."
Citty said Holtzclaw had been working with the OCPD for three years, most recently in northeast Oklahoma City, and that all of the incidents occurred during his 4 p.m. to 2 a.m. shift. while he was on duty.
"The types of acts committed were anywhere from just requiring the females expose themselves, to fondling the females, and...actual intercourse," Citty said.
"About three of the victims were asked or required to perform oral sodomy on this officer."
Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater said he expects more women to come forward since all of the allegations only go back a few months and Holtzclaw has been on the force since 2011.
"We kind of anticipate there may be more victims out there because this goes back to February," Prater said.
"February is the earliest that we have here.... If there's anyone that was victimized by this officer, we certainly want to hear from you."
According to a report from The Oklahoman, earlier this year Holtzclaw was one of four officers named in a wrongful-death lawsuit stemming from the May 1, 2013, death of Clifton Armstrong.
Oklahoma's medical examiner ruled the death an accident and Prater cleared the officers of any wrong-doing in the matter.
As a four-year starter at Eastern Michigan from 2005-2008, Holtzclaw holds the EMU record for most career starts (47) and is second all-time in school history in tackles (437). He earned Freshman All-American honors from the Football Writers of America after his first season in Ypsilanti.
Hey, did she steal cigars one time?! We'd better check it out!
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My blinkers???Take your blinkers off Nirvana.
Anyway did you take a look at the video?
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Blinkers are attached to the bridle of a horse that blocks vision so the animal is only able to see straight ahead.Nirvana wrote:
Lucky SevenMy blinkers???Take your blinkers off Nirvana.
Anyway did you take a look at the video?
I've seen the video. Your claim that the towering Browns confrontation with the store attendant was not particularly violent is ridiculous. Browns behaviour at the time was overtly threatening.
Your links to support your contention that Brown was guiltless were pathetic .... not convincing at all.
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