http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09 ... 96408.htmlThe normally calm streets of Hong Kong resembled a war zone on Sunday night as police tried to quell thousands of pro-democracy protesters on the city's streets.
Tear gas was fired at the crowds gathered at government headquarters in a challenge to Beijing over its decision to restrict democratic reforms for the semiautonomous city.
Slightly surreal scenes unfolded as protestors attempted to shield themselves with umbrellas.
The Chinese government has imposed a media blackout of the protests and there are reports that access to some social network sites has been blocked.
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to tell you the truth, i was surprised it took this long since the turnover for this to happen;
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
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It's going to be really interesting to see how this pans out. The protestors are asking for something China cannot give and even the UK never gave Hong Kong. They are exceedingly well-behaved but seem determined; whilst China has no experience in dealing with massive defiance softly, I can't see a Tienanmen endgame here. I guess China is going to have to offer some kind of compromise, but I suspect it won't be what most of the demonstrators will accept. Uncertain times.
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Apparently the cops were told to back right off after photos of them tear gassing old people came out, its blocking roads and causing delays on the MTR. I suspect it will be like occupy wall st. The mainland govt. may just try to wait them out...
Have heard rumblings of rumours from a number of Chinese (mainland) folk that this is a western funded conspiracy, while I don't buy into that (although it wouldn't surprise me either way) I would say that any rumour that ensures all whispers of dissent reaching mainland causes the mainlanders to feel disgust is probably advantageous for the encumbent powers that be.
Have heard rumblings of rumours from a number of Chinese (mainland) folk that this is a western funded conspiracy, while I don't buy into that (although it wouldn't surprise me either way) I would say that any rumour that ensures all whispers of dissent reaching mainland causes the mainlanders to feel disgust is probably advantageous for the encumbent powers that be.
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and that's the problem.... how far will they go to ensure they keep control?Starving Pelican wrote:I bet Beijing is terrified that discontent will spread to Guangdong, its wealthiest province and one which is largely populated by Cantonese, who also make up 99% of HK's native population. If Guangdong split, the PRC would be f***ed.
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Good question. They can't do another Tianemen (sp.) and they know it. They've started believing they have something to offer the world besides money, but they may soon realise that they sure as hell don't.violet wrote:and that's the problem.... how far will they go to ensure they keep control?Starving Pelican wrote:I bet Beijing is terrified that discontent will spread to Guangdong, its wealthiest province and one which is largely populated by Cantonese, who also make up 99% of HK's native population. If Guangdong split, the PRC would be f***ed.
It's nice that the Hong Kongers have taken time out of their vacuous Gucci obsessed lifestyle to try to get some control over their own lives. That it's taken nearly 180 years is a sad reflection on the place and it's people.
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Uuh, your country was the one that started the Opium Wars($, like Gucci) and signed a 99-year lease, not a 399 year lease, remember?
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well the Tibet problem has been going on now for how many decades and still no end in sight
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer." HST
Yes. We can go back through history and look at all sorts of evils perpetuated by colonial powers Vlad. That's not really the point and it doesn't negate the fact fact that even the most heavily colonized peoples have shown some kind of energy and interest in forming democracies for themselves. HK people never seemed interested, even during the time the handover was being negotiated. Their apathy has been astounding and it's intriguing that it's only developing now as an almost racist anti-mainlander ethos has developed in HK in the last three years.vladimir wrote:Uuh, your country was the one that started the Opium Wars($, like Gucci) and signed a 99-year lease, not a 399 year lease, remember?
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That's my point around the rumours... The Cantonese folk I've asked have all been very negative the protests...Starving Pelican wrote:I bet Beijing is terrified that discontent will spread to Guangdong, its wealthiest province and one which is largely populated by Cantonese, who also make up 99% of HK's native population. If Guangdong split, the PRC would be f***ed.
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Subtle self-irony? Or did someone drug scobienz tonight?scobienz wrote:It's nice that the Hong Kongers have taken time out of their vacuous Gucci obsessed lifestyle
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Really hope this doesn't turn nasty; in many ways it's so sweet
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-29423147
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-29423147
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