The visa extension process for some visas in Indonesia is ridiculous with the applicant having to attend immigration on three separate days within five. When you are a couple of hours away from a major town with an immigration office this is a major inconvenience. I'm not particularly proud to aiding or perpetuating corruption, but a friend of a friend introduced me to the husband of a woman who works in immigration and for $25 (plus visa fee) he will pick up my passport, process the visa extension and have my passport back to me the following day without me moving. I'll be accepting.
Do you think this is acceptable behavior as it's just the way things are done in the region, or are you against all forms of corruption and believe perpetuating the acts of corrupt government officials is unacceptable?
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Wouldn't cost me a second's sleep. I wish I could to that with the German Embassy; renewing my passport is 2 trips to Phnom PenhMr Londo wrote:The visa extension process for some visas in Indonesia is ridiculous with the applicant having to attend immigration on three separate days within five. When you are a couple of hours away from a major town with an immigration office this is a major inconvenience. I'm not particularly proud to aiding or perpetuating corruption, but a friend of a friend introduced me to the husband of a woman who works in immigration and for $25 (plus visa fee) he will pick up my passport, process the visa extension and have my passport back to me the following day without me moving. I'll be accepting.
Do you think this is acceptable behavior as it's just the way things are done in the region, or are you against all forms of corruption and believe perpetuating the acts of corrupt government officials is unacceptable?
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I could imagine the under the table visa thing being somewhat born/encouraged decades ago when the colonials could get anything they wanted for a little tea money as it's obviously not something that effects everyday asians in the region. WE are THE demand for such a service and it's almost healthy corruption rather than blood sucking corruption imo.
So sounds like a good idea.
So sounds like a good idea.
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I don't know if this still happens in Hua Hin TH, but before they moved into their new office,you could slip $700 under the table and get a 1 year visa!!!
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I bought a nanglo chicken dinner and gave 100 usd to a desk clerk of nepal dept of industry to draft and submit a business proposal. Saved me being deported n gave me 100% foreign owned pvt ltd co in nepal last 12 years. But yes, you are dirty.
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The complete and utter nightmare that is Indonesian immigration is a result of the response to JI after the Bali bombings.
1. Western countries changed visa rules for Indonesians overnight because of terrorism fears and the Indonesians made them needlessly complicated in return during 2003 or 2004. Neither side has budged since. Prior to that the Suharto era controls meant visas weren't ever as cheap or easy as they are in Thailand or Cambodia anyway.
2. The fingerprinting and constant need to present yourself to immigration allows the government to remove foreign extremist preachers and known terrorists with ease. If they had the Cambodian visa laws then the country would be a hotbed of terrorism (Pakistan) rather than the half dozen attacks over ten years or so that actually happened.
As for feeling dirty, there are countless shops that offer the same service all over Bali.
1. Western countries changed visa rules for Indonesians overnight because of terrorism fears and the Indonesians made them needlessly complicated in return during 2003 or 2004. Neither side has budged since. Prior to that the Suharto era controls meant visas weren't ever as cheap or easy as they are in Thailand or Cambodia anyway.
2. The fingerprinting and constant need to present yourself to immigration allows the government to remove foreign extremist preachers and known terrorists with ease. If they had the Cambodian visa laws then the country would be a hotbed of terrorism (Pakistan) rather than the half dozen attacks over ten years or so that actually happened.
As for feeling dirty, there are countless shops that offer the same service all over Bali.