outrageous
there's a video of it on FB and on youtube
http://crimefeed.com/2016/07/bystander- ... ank-range/
it might be in the above too. I've seen it once. don't need to see it again
(apols if this has already been posted elsewhere)
cops murder guy at close range - baton rouge
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That is just sick. They just wrestled him to the ground and murdered him while holding him down.
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^^ That's a bit cryptic for me right now. Have you been quaffing with springrain or Harold or something ?
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I have no use for guns and am normally as outraged as the next person at the senseless gun violence that plagues the USA, but I have to say in this particular case I don’t really see why everyone immediately has their pitchforks out about the "murder" of Alton Sterling.
The officers were responding to a 911 call in which the caller informed the operator that Sterling was threatening someone with a firearm (apparently it was some homeless guy hassling Sterling for money).
When the cameras start rolling Sterling was refusing to comply with reasonable requests by the responding officers to calm down and submit to a search; when the officers decide to move on him he starts violently resisting.
In the videos we can see one officer successfully pins his left arm. However his right arm was obscured from camera view behind his body and under the front of the car. What’s clear is that there’s some kind of unresolved struggle going on in that area between him and the other officer, and that officer yells “Gun!”
Sterling gets shot, and the officers then remove a gun out of Sterling's right pocket.
It subsequently becomes clear that Sterling has a very lengthy career as a violent felon, including a previous altercation with the police, resisting arrest, with a firearm. I gather it’s unclear at this point if the officers knew of that fact going into the confrontation, but anyway the guy has form.
The worst I could conclude from the videos is that the police escalated the situation way too quickly, although the videos released to the public mysteriously only start when shit gets really out of hand, so I’d be interested to know what happened in the minutes prior.
The officers were responding to a 911 call in which the caller informed the operator that Sterling was threatening someone with a firearm (apparently it was some homeless guy hassling Sterling for money).
When the cameras start rolling Sterling was refusing to comply with reasonable requests by the responding officers to calm down and submit to a search; when the officers decide to move on him he starts violently resisting.
In the videos we can see one officer successfully pins his left arm. However his right arm was obscured from camera view behind his body and under the front of the car. What’s clear is that there’s some kind of unresolved struggle going on in that area between him and the other officer, and that officer yells “Gun!”
Sterling gets shot, and the officers then remove a gun out of Sterling's right pocket.
It subsequently becomes clear that Sterling has a very lengthy career as a violent felon, including a previous altercation with the police, resisting arrest, with a firearm. I gather it’s unclear at this point if the officers knew of that fact going into the confrontation, but anyway the guy has form.
The worst I could conclude from the videos is that the police escalated the situation way too quickly, although the videos released to the public mysteriously only start when shit gets really out of hand, so I’d be interested to know what happened in the minutes prior.
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^^ Interesting backstory, and a fuller picture of the events leading up to the shooting.
So you are saying he is more a victim of America's violent society and gun laws then, and the cops were hardly to blame and acted fairly?shitegeist wrote:I have no use for guns and am normally as outraged as the next person at the senseless gun violence that plagues the USA, but I have to say in this particular case I don’t really see why everyone immediately has their pitchforks out about the "murder" of Alton Sterling.
The officers were responding to a 911 call in which the caller informed the operator that Sterling was threatening someone with a firearm (apparently it was some homeless guy hassling Sterling for money).
When the cameras start rolling Sterling was refusing to comply with reasonable requests by the responding officers to calm down and submit to a search; when the officers decide to move on him he starts violently resisting.
In the videos we can see one officer successfully pins his left arm. However his right arm was obscured from camera view behind his body and under the front of the car. What’s clear is that there’s some kind of unresolved struggle going on in that area between him and the other officer, and that officer yells “Gun!”
Sterling gets shot, and the officers then remove a gun out of Sterling's right pocket.
It subsequently becomes clear that Sterling has a very lengthy career as a violent felon, including a previous altercation with the police, resisting arrest, with a firearm. I gather it’s unclear at this point if the officers knew of that fact going into the confrontation, but anyway the guy has form.
The worst I could conclude from the videos is that the police escalated the situation way too quickly, although the videos released to the public mysteriously only start when shit gets really out of hand, so I’d be interested to know what happened in the minutes prior.
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Just one more casualty in a country awash with firearms. Who knows what really happened, but based on the evidence that's currently come to light, I fully expect that the two officers involved will walk away pretty cleanly from this, yes. Don't like it? Get rid of guns. Otherwise....Jock Jock wrote:So you are saying he is more a victim of America's violent society and gun laws then, and the cops were hardly to blame and acted fairly?
How anyone can walk away from that is beyond me. But yeah, if you want to have guns everywhere in your society, you are definitely more likely to be killed by a cop (which kind of makes a mockery of all that 2nd amendment crap about fighting back against your government.)
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i haven't watched the video in the link I provided so perhaps our different perspectives are due to having seen different lengths of video footage. I saw a man being tackled by a cop. there were then two cops on him on the ground within a fraction of a second. After shooting the man dead. One of the cops removed the victims gun from his pocket.
The shop owner who witnessed it said there was no struggle for a gun or reaching for anything, as the victim couldn't move with the police on top of him.
It's fucked.
The shop owner who witnessed it said there was no struggle for a gun or reaching for anything, as the victim couldn't move with the police on top of him.
It's fucked.
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You lost me right about there.violet wrote:i haven't watched the video in the link I provided...
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I stated that in my original post. You lost me when you made that last post instead of endeavouring to find the one on YouTube.
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