Car crashes into crowd, kills one
And to Harold suggesting it might just be road rage and that there is no evidence it's premeditated or deliberate, here's a picture of the impact:
As to the political credentials of the guy driving the car:
"James Fields is a member of the Confederate Regulators, a far right-wing ‘Flagger’ group with connections to ‘Militia’, ‘Survivalist’, and ‘3%er’ political groups. Fields is listed as a “General” in the 45th Oklahoma branch of the Confederate Regulators.
Fields is also a member of the mainstream Confederate Resistance group, which supports the continued display of the Confederate flag."
As to the political credentials of the guy driving the car:
"James Fields is a member of the Confederate Regulators, a far right-wing ‘Flagger’ group with connections to ‘Militia’, ‘Survivalist’, and ‘3%er’ political groups. Fields is listed as a “General” in the 45th Oklahoma branch of the Confederate Regulators.
Fields is also a member of the mainstream Confederate Resistance group, which supports the continued display of the Confederate flag."
Since the police usually does nothing when the other band of masked fascists (antifa) attacks peaceful protests with baseball bats, pepper spray and bike locks they have started to wear armor.scobienz wrote:Why do they carry shields? They look like mummy's boys playing at Game of Thrones.
None but ourselves can free our mind.
That's terrible. Those poor things.
Who do you think draws those nice symbols on them? Their mums, or do they do they gather together on a campsite and do it in a workshop environment?
Who do you think draws those nice symbols on them? Their mums, or do they do they gather together on a campsite and do it in a workshop environment?
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Is it me or are there more and more racists?Visser wrote:Since the police usually does nothing when the other band of masked fascists (antifa) attacks peaceful protests with baseball bats, pepper spray and bike locks they have started to wear armor.scobienz wrote:Why do they carry shields? They look like mummy's boys playing at Game of Thrones.
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well one of them does appear to have a pair of rolling pins on them....scobienz wrote:That's terrible. Those poor things.
Who do you think draws those nice symbols on them? Their mums,?
They are called fasces. It is from this, the word fascist comes.
Fasces: set of rods bound in the form of a bundle which contained an axe. In ancient Rome, the bodyguards of a magistrate carried fasces. Roman fasces. Tomb of Marcus Calpurnius Rufus from Ephesus. The word fasces means "bundle" and refers to the fact that it is a bundle of rods, which surrounded an ax in the middle.
Fasces: set of rods bound in the form of a bundle which contained an axe. In ancient Rome, the bodyguards of a magistrate carried fasces. Roman fasces. Tomb of Marcus Calpurnius Rufus from Ephesus. The word fasces means "bundle" and refers to the fact that it is a bundle of rods, which surrounded an ax in the middle.
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It is terrible, is that not the general consensus of this thread? Being physically attacked for your opinion or what you said sucks. You would know, I mean what's different between that and the fine Daun Penh boys chasing you around?scobienz wrote:That's terrible. Those poor things.
Who do you think draws those nice symbols on them? Their mums, or do they do they gather together on a campsite and do it in a workshop environment?
I don't agree with nationalsocialists. Their two big problems are nationalism and socialism. But it is indeed a problem that violent opponents, antifa clowns, target them with physical violence with the only reason being that they are "right".
Violence has no place in debate, regardless of shape or form.
I discuss with the extreme right and myself belong to the alt right. The most common thing I speak to nationalsocialists about is that nobody listens to them. They are the ones who bring it up. Maybe if we did listen, and argued peacefully, they would change.
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
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The difference here is that the Daun Penh Boys were after me not for my beliefs or what I said, but because I provided a platform for you posters to post whatever you wanted. They got violent when I refused to suppress free speech, so your example doesn't really work.
If, on the other hand, I was spouting racist views, denying the holocaust and calling for Jews to persecuted well, yeah, I don't think I would complain too much that my hate-filled view propagated to encourage violence against other themselves incited violence against me.
If, on the other hand, I was spouting racist views, denying the holocaust and calling for Jews to persecuted well, yeah, I don't think I would complain too much that my hate-filled view propagated to encourage violence against other themselves incited violence against me.
Let me use myself as an example then. I have been confronted multiple times by strangers in public settings for expressing my political views in the company of friends. Right or wrong, or does it depend on what those views are?
I don't think it's OK to introduce violence into a verbal conflict or disagreement of opinion. If you do then we'll just agree to disagree, I guess.
Would you cheer if e.g. Alex Jones was shot dead? I wouldn't, but that's not because I agree with him. I don't.
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I don't think it's OK to introduce violence into a verbal conflict or disagreement of opinion. If you do then we'll just agree to disagree, I guess.
Would you cheer if e.g. Alex Jones was shot dead? I wouldn't, but that's not because I agree with him. I don't.
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Alexandra wrote:Let me use myself as an example then. I have been confronted multiple times by strangers in public settings for expressing my political views in the company of friends. Right or wrong, or does it depend on what those views are?
I don't think it's OK to introduce violence into a verbal conflict or disagreement of opinion. If you do then we'll just agree to disagree, I guess.
Would you cheer if e.g. Alex Jones was shot dead? I wouldn't, but that's not because I agree with him. I don't.
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Again, hardly valid examples.
As far as I know, your views - or those of Alex Jones - don't celebrate the killing of six million jews, don't call for a whites-only home country. Nor, on the couple of times we have met, have I seen you carrying a nazi flag, marching with arm raised in a nazi salute and shouting Heil Trump.
When your political views are predicated on hatred and violence you can't really complain if extremists on the other other side meet violence with violence. I'm not defending it; I'm saying provocation is met with retaliation.
You say you have been confronted for expressing your views in groups of friend and ask me if it's right or wrong. What does confronted mean? Are you views so precious they can't be challenged, or are you suggesting you were punched on the nose for them? What was hurt - your body or your feelings
Nationalsocialists are often revisionists, and one thing revisionists believe is that the claim about six million Jews is Zionist propaganda. They are in the same camp as the communists who argue that there is nothing wrong with the ideology but with the implementation, and we should try again.scobienz wrote:As far as I know, your views - or those of Alex Jones - don't celebrate the killing of six million jews, don't call for a whites-only home country. Nor, on the couple of times we have met, have I seen you carrying a nazi flag, marching with arm raised in a nazi salute and shouting Heil Trump.
When your political views are predicated on hatred and violence you can't really complain if extremists on the other other side meet violence with violence. I'm not defending it; I'm saying provocation is met with retaliation.
Nationalsocialists are in the same camp as the communists. This is one of the things which the Buddha taught us: meditating next to a river, watching boats sail by, he came to the realization that the further away two things are the more similar they are. The far right and far left are so far on each side that they eventually agree on multiple things. For example, both their ideologies were wrongly implemented, often argued because of how it was back then.
Another thing they have in common is the belief that using physical violence against political opponents is somehow OK. It is justified, on both sides, with the claim that they are being attacked. Their ideology and their identity, and whatever else they can feel offended by, is under attack by the mere expression that somebody else disagrees with them, and they retaliate. Because they are defending themselves they are of course never doing anything wrong.
The same mentality was seen during the holocaust where the Germans thought they were defending themselves against the Zionists, or when the USSR was defending itself against attacks on what's holy, and even when the KR thought they were defending themselves against external influence and the CIA.
It's a dangerous mentality and, ironically, in an attempt to defend themselves, they unite themselves as a manifestation of disagreement, by being equally, how shall I put it, insane. These people have lost touch with humanity. They are being misled to believe that the rest of society needs them, that we need them to protect us. We don't, and in the end of the day, they put the rest of us to shame in the name of the ways they believe we want to be represented.
Fuck's sake. I just went full springrain here, didn't I? I guess what I'm trying to say is that it makes me sad, and I don't agree with it. I think the whole thing is sad and I wish it would stop.
The last time it happened it was some random bloke who wanted to beat me up because I said loud enough for him to hear that taxation is immoral. Security guards intervened before he could hurt my body. He didn't hurt my feelings, but he did make me think.scobienz wrote:You say you have been confronted for expressing your views in groups of friend and ask me if it's right or wrong. What does confronted mean? Are you views so precious they can't be challenged, or are you suggesting you were punched on the nose for them? What was hurt - your body or your feelings
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