Can’t blame them to give Brexiter a hard time, England’s has always been Europe’s free loader.
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Really? Never heard that view before.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:16 pmCan’t blame them to give Brexiter a hard time, England’s has always been Europe’s free loader.
Tell me more.
I've only heard the UK view that they were initially willing participants, but slowly BRussels conned them and restrictive control was introduced subtly
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Europe was built politically from the steel and coal post WW2 alliances that were created by the will of De Gaule and Adenauer, to find European political solutions to Europe problems. Naturally that happened against the will of the control freaks USA and to a lesser degree UK. For the latter there were benefits to be gained from their political alignement with the US and it had its own commonwealth and ex-empire commercial links at heart rather than to help continental Europe.vladimir wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:03 pmReally? Never heard that view before.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:16 pmCan’t blame them to give Brexiter a hard time, England’s has always been Europe’s free loader.
Tell me more.
I've only heard the UK view that they were initially willing participants, but slowly BRussels conned them and restrictive control was introduced subtly
De Gaule successors refused UK entry from their first candidacy in 61 till 73.
When Uk were finally allowed in, they benefited from exclusive privileges such as the liberty to opt out certains EU laws, full membership with Monetary union and Shengen territory exemptions plus on top of that, a substantial discount on the annual member fee...
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Good account. Now, here's why we really joined.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:29 pmEurope was built politically from the steel and coal post WW2 alliances that were created by the will of De Gaule and Adenauer, to find European political solutions to Europe problems. Naturally that happened against the will of the control freaks USA and to a lesser degree UK. For the latter there were benefits to be gained from their political alignement with the US and it had its own commonwealth and ex-empire commercial links at heart rather than to help continental Europe.vladimir wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:03 pmReally? Never heard that view before.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:16 pmCan’t blame them to give Brexiter a hard time, England’s has always been Europe’s free loader.
Tell me more.
I've only heard the UK view that they were initially willing participants, but slowly BRussels conned them and restrictive control was introduced subtly
De Gaule successors refused UK entry from their first candidacy in 61 till 73.
When Uk were finally allowed in, they benefited from exclusive privileges such as the liberty to opt out certains EU laws, full membership with Monetary union and Shengen territory exemptions plus on top of that, a substantial discount on the annual member fee...
FTFY, you're welcome.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:29 pmEurope was built politically from the steel and grit of Americans, Brits/Commonwealth nations & Russiansvladimir wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:03 pmReally? Never heard that view before.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:16 pmCan’t blame them to give Brexiter a hard time, England’s has always been Europe’s free loader.
Tell me more.
I've only heard the UK view that they were initially willing participants, but slowly BRussels conned them and restrictive control was introduced subtly
Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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And, here we go:
The Lying 'ADL' and their ridiculous accusations of 'Anti-semitism', when they are the very perpetrators of such gobbledygook, get off Scot-free, without condemnation, while anyone who speaks out against 'The Brotherhood', by which I mean the adherents of the 'Babylonian Talmud', is vilified.
In the words of the prophet, "This sh&t has gotta go!"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47499551
The Lying 'ADL' and their ridiculous accusations of 'Anti-semitism', when they are the very perpetrators of such gobbledygook, get off Scot-free, without condemnation, while anyone who speaks out against 'The Brotherhood', by which I mean the adherents of the 'Babylonian Talmud', is vilified.
In the words of the prophet, "This sh&t has gotta go!"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47499551
'History is a set of lies agreed upon.'
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What's happening next? Options on the table chart.
https://interactive.guim.co.uk/uploader ... 5xKTy8Tfe/
I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on for a minute and suggest that hard Brexit was the strategy by the ruling elite long before Cameran gave the people a non binding vote.
1. Tough EU anti tax avoidance rules coming into effect soon.
2. Want to do deals with countries that the EU rules don't allow.
3. Increase the power of the home office.
4. Make sure you lose the majority by putting in Ali G type figures in key marginal so you will get the pro British DUP onboard.
5. Use the DUP and Irish borders to force through a hard Brexit.
Evil bartsrds don't care about starting the Irish problems again.
After all, it's a sovereign issue.
Takes tinfoil hat off.
https://interactive.guim.co.uk/uploader ... 5xKTy8Tfe/
I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on for a minute and suggest that hard Brexit was the strategy by the ruling elite long before Cameran gave the people a non binding vote.
1. Tough EU anti tax avoidance rules coming into effect soon.
2. Want to do deals with countries that the EU rules don't allow.
3. Increase the power of the home office.
4. Make sure you lose the majority by putting in Ali G type figures in key marginal so you will get the pro British DUP onboard.
5. Use the DUP and Irish borders to force through a hard Brexit.
Evil bartsrds don't care about starting the Irish problems again.
After all, it's a sovereign issue.
Takes tinfoil hat off.
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Tin foil hat time again. Latest s show news.
Facebook: Obscure group spends £340,000 on no-deal ads
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-facebook
The single biggest known British political advertiser on Facebook is a mysterious pro-Brexit campaign group pushing for a no-deal exit from the EU. The revelation about Britain’s Future, which has never disclosed the source of its funding or organisational structure, has raised concerns about the influence of “dark money” in British politics.
The little-known campaign group has spent more than £340,000 on Facebook adverts backing a hard Brexit since the social network began publishing lists of political advertisers last October, making it a bigger spender than every UK political party and the government combined.
Facebook: Obscure group spends £340,000 on no-deal ads
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-facebook
The single biggest known British political advertiser on Facebook is a mysterious pro-Brexit campaign group pushing for a no-deal exit from the EU. The revelation about Britain’s Future, which has never disclosed the source of its funding or organisational structure, has raised concerns about the influence of “dark money” in British politics.
The little-known campaign group has spent more than £340,000 on Facebook adverts backing a hard Brexit since the social network began publishing lists of political advertisers last October, making it a bigger spender than every UK political party and the government combined.
Don't say it's the Russians, Mc Phisto will throw a fit and call you an imbecileAseriousman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:40 pmTin foil hat time again. Latest s show news.
Facebook: Obscure group spends £340,000 on no-deal ads
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-facebook
The single biggest known British political advertiser on Facebook is a mysterious pro-Brexit campaign group pushing for a no-deal exit from the EU. The revelation about Britain’s Future, which has never disclosed the source of its funding or organisational structure, has raised concerns about the influence of “dark money” in British politics.
The little-known campaign group has spent more than £340,000 on Facebook adverts backing a hard Brexit since the social network began publishing lists of political advertisers last October, making it a bigger spender than every UK political party and the government combined.
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I would argue that the basic economic aim of the European Union is the optimal allocation of resources for the EU, however the original roots to this were more about security than economics, and to this point the Americans were hugely supportive. Europe has been addressing how to accomplish this through a single market for the past 65 plus years, since the conclusion of the second World War. At the time there was a strong desire to curb nationalism and create economies that were so intertwined that economically there could never be a plausible reason or ability to go to war, thereby preventing the same conditions that led to the rise of extreme nationalism in Germany from happening again, with economic integration being a crucial part of that. Eventually, continued integration was seen as economically necessary to compete with the U.S.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:29 pmEurope was built politically from the steel and coal post WW2 alliances that were created by the will of De Gaule and Adenauer, to find European political solutions to Europe problems. Naturally that happened against the will of the control freaks USA and to a lesser degree UK. For the latter there were benefits to be gained from their political alignement with the US and it had its own commonwealth and ex-empire commercial links at heart rather than to help continental Europe.vladimir wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:03 pmReally? Never heard that view before.Barang_doa_slae wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:16 pmCan’t blame them to give Brexiter a hard time, England’s has always been Europe’s free loader.
Tell me more.
I've only heard the UK view that they were initially willing participants, but slowly BRussels conned them and restrictive control was introduced subtly
De Gaule successors refused UK entry from their first candidacy in 61 till 73.
When Uk were finally allowed in, they benefited from exclusive privileges such as the liberty to opt out certains EU laws, full membership with Monetary union and Shengen territory exemptions plus on top of that, a substantial discount on the annual member fee...
A brief history: Economic integration truly started to begin in 1951 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris and establishment of the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC), which was a precursor to the Treaty of Rome in 1957 that established the European Economic Community (EEC). In 1968 the ‘economic community’ expanded to become the customs union, and the European Community (EC) was born. The next major step was for the United Kingdom to join (1975), followed by the creation of the European Monetary System (EMS) in 1979 . Finally, in 1986, the Single European Act (SEA) was signed, which directly led to the The Treaty on European Union in 1993 (the ‘Maastricht treaty’). The Treaty of Amsterdam came into force in 1999, which established the Schengen pact as law, which did away with internal border controls between Members. The Euro was also introduced in 1999, and began replacing national currencies in 2002. The Lisbon Treaty, which modified the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community, was signed in 2007 and came into force in 2009. The impact of the Lisbon Treaty on the EU’s single market has been significant. Some of the major contributions have been that it: “reforms the EU institutions and improves the EU decision-making process; strengthens the democratic dimension of the EU; reforms the internal policies of the EU; [and] strengthens the external policies of the EU.” Of particular note has been its contributions to the aim of creating a truly ‘single market’ through the protections on the freedoms of movement for goods, people and services.
Brexit is a major step backwards. Not only does it showcase a rise in nationalism, it economically weakens the EU as a whole.
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Rubbish!
Pay attention to the thread, please.
And try to come up with your own reasons.
'History is a set of lies agreed upon.'
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Just out of interest, where do you think they got that £340000 from?springrain wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:18 pmRubbish!
Pay attention to the thread, please.
And try to come up with your own reasons.
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After them spending over £340,000 on FB Brexit ads, I doubt that very much.
On a related note, I see Cambridge Analytica are in the news again re FB and Brexit.