New UK PM is Boris Johnson
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Cheesy, you continue to show your ignorance about politics. I guess you have not had time to read those links I showed you.Pity, as it would have made you think a bit more.
Any one with the slightest knowledge of Gordon Brown will tell you he was a committed Marxist. He tried to float the idea of a Britain without money to the Labour Party but they found that a bit too far down the Marxist road.
Read the thesis he presented for his PhD and tell me he is not a socialist. He was and is still a committed Marxist.
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Ownership isn't the issue, it's zoning and planning permission. The laws are very draconian, and even something with very low impact such as a barn conversion can be impossible in many cases.Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:51 pmI just wanted to comment on this part of your post. Totally agree with what you said up to this point:
So that leaves you with two options. Increase supply or reduce demand. You increase supply by building more houses, but as we know the UK has run out of appropriately zoned space which means a significant increase in supply would require the re-zoning of "greenfield", "green belt" or "brownfield" (which 9 times out of 10 would look like greenfield to the untrained eye). Obviously this isn't popular with the environmentalists.
It definitely begins with c and ends with t ....
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ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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The words landed gentry and archaic go together quite well, and they give a hint as to the real story.starkmonster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:54 pmOwnership isn't the issue, it's zoning and planning permission. The laws are very draconian, and even something with very low impact such as a barn conversion can be impossible in many cases.Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:51 pmI just wanted to comment on this part of your post. Totally agree with what you said up to this point:
So that leaves you with two options. Increase supply or reduce demand. You increase supply by building more houses, but as we know the UK has run out of appropriately zoned space which means a significant increase in supply would require the re-zoning of "greenfield", "green belt" or "brownfield" (which 9 times out of 10 would look like greenfield to the untrained eye). Obviously this isn't popular with the environmentalists.
With only 5% of the land built on, the environmental argument is weak at best. Also, why is land ownership in the UK such a secret?
I guess you've seen this?
http://map.whoownsengland.org/
Land ownership is a closely guarded secret in the UK.
This organisation have been using the FOI laws to gather information on land ownership. So far, they have dug up over 700,000 acres held by private individuals not including foreign companies, the RSPB, National Trust and MOD.
It seems, unsurprisingly, that the English in power care more about birds, trees, and national estates than they do about housing the poor in their own homes.
Big difference between the 60's and early 70's under Labour governments, and the later periods under the Conservatives or mock Conservatives.
Brown did try to address the problem, but it was I think unpopular for the reasons you stated together with large heapings of idiocy and malfeasance no doubt.
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Cheesy, you must rank as one of the best comedians in the country.Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:10 pmBrown did try to address the problem, but it was I think unpopular for the reasons you stated together with large heapings of idiocy and malfeasance no doubt.
"Gordon Brown tried to address the problem". Gordon Brown WAS the problem. His policies resulted in massive price increases in housing followed by encouraging banks to give loans to those who could not afford them in the first place. Gordon Brown and Alan Greenspan managed to create the sub prime fiasco that resulted in the biggest financial crisis since the 30s.
Do you really want to discuss how Gordon Brown fucked up the economy? If you do, please start another thread and I will give you chapter and verse including all of the links to references on this Scottish disaster.
You are a scream.
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Let's not go too far off the point here, Boris Johnson is the topic and I fondly await hearing about his great plans for the UK. I'm not holding my breath though, there's another 90 days or so for him to spin his magic.
https://daystobrexit.co.uk/
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Couldn't agree more old chap hence the suggestion for Cheesy to start a new thread rather than running his one man socialist campaign on a Boris thread.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:39 pmLet's not go too far off the point here, Boris Johnson is the topic and I fondly await hearing about his great plans for the UK. I'm not holding my breath though, there's another 90 days or so for him to spin his magic.
https://daystobrexit.co.uk/
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Await, man, await? He's already done more for the country than did May in 3 years.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:39 pmLet's not go too far off the point here, Boris Johnson is the topic and I fondly await hearing about his great plans for the UK. I'm not holding my breath though, there's another 90 days or so for him to spin his magic.
https://daystobrexit.co.uk/
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
Very fond of my fellow Celtic island dwellers as I am, I think little Leo may have been enjoying his time in the limelight a little too much and is going to find that he has been horse traded for the greater good of the EU and will soon be returned to vassalage status when he is no longer useful.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:39 pmLet's not go too far off the point here, Boris Johnson is the topic and I fondly await hearing about his great plans for the UK. I'm not holding my breath though, there's another 90 days or so for him to spin his magic.
https://daystobrexit.co.uk/
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Perhaps I should have said made noises rather than attempt. I had left the UK by then, but I doubt he made much headway .TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:15 pmCheesy, you must rank as one of the best comedians in the country.Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:10 pmBrown did try to address the problem, but it was I think unpopular for the reasons you stated together with large heapings of idiocy and malfeasance no doubt.
"Gordon Brown tried to address the problem". Gordon Brown WAS the problem. His policies resulted in massive price increases in housing followed by encouraging banks to give loans to those who could not afford them in the first place. Gordon Brown and Alan Greenspan managed to create the sub prime fiasco that resulted in the biggest financial crisis since the 30s.
Do you really want to discuss how Gordon Brown fucked up the economy? If you do, please start another thread and I will give you chapter and verse including all of the links to references on this Scottish disaster.
You are a scream.
I always thought him the same as the other conservatives in actions. He was a key part of the Blair government after all. That's why I put him down as such in the list.Housing: It was suggested that House Planning restrictions could be relaxed Brown said that he wanted to release more land and make house ownership easier with shared equity schemes. He backed a proposal to build five eco-towns, each housing between 10,000 and 20,000 people—up to 100,000 new homes
It doesn't surprise me you are calling him a Marxist and at the same time blaming him and a Labour government for the sub prime mortgage scam. Since when have the hard Left run the banks and financial institutions? He was part of the problem, and not the hoped for solution, as was Blair.
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As John Bingham said, this is a Boris thread.Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:24 amI always thought him the same as the other conservatives in actions. He was a key part of the Blair government after all. That's why I put him down as such in the list.
It doesn't surprise me you are calling him a Marxist and at the same time blaming him and a Labour government for the sub prime mortgage scam. Since when have the hard Left run the banks and financial institutions? He was part of the problem, and not the hoped for solution, as was Blair.
Start another thread on Gordon Brown and I will explain to you in great depth what a total marxist twat he was and how he was instrumental in the Sub Prime fiasco.
Meanwhile, Boris had a great day in Ireland. When will the EU countries realise Brexit is not about them getting a great deal at the UK's expense and that democracy is more important than a EU social experiment run by Brussels (Germany and France with whip in hand)
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In what way was it great? What exactly did he achieve?
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Have you tried 'Mumsnet' or 'Democratic Underground' yet?TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:10 pmYou only had to mention the word snowflake or that Donald may be OK and that was it..lifetime ban.
So anal or not, it;s the only Asian forum I have not been banned from.
20 minutes without a ban is my record there!
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