Argue in circles about British politics thread
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Johnson may have a name that means PRICK, but according to him, Tories don't masterbate. I'm not so sure that's true observing the above few posts. It seems they are rather prone to it.
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I wondered when some good Samaritan was going to leak it.
Boris Johnson's Conservative party has received cash from 9 Russian donors named in a suppressed intelligence report
Adam Bienkov Nov 10, 2019, 4:49 AM
Boris Johnson's Conservative party has received donations from nine Russian donors, with suspected links to the Kremlin, according to an official report which has been suppressed by the prime minister.
Johnson chose to block publication of the report amid reported fears it could cost him the upcoming general election.
Leaked details from the report tie Johnson's party to London-based Russian oligarchs, some of whom have known ties to the Russian security services.
There has been a surge in donations from prominent Russians to the Conservative party over the past year.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/boris-j ... ssion=true
Boris Johnson's Conservative party has received cash from 9 Russian donors named in a suppressed intelligence report
Adam Bienkov Nov 10, 2019, 4:49 AM
Boris Johnson's Conservative party has received donations from nine Russian donors, with suspected links to the Kremlin, according to an official report which has been suppressed by the prime minister.
Johnson chose to block publication of the report amid reported fears it could cost him the upcoming general election.
Leaked details from the report tie Johnson's party to London-based Russian oligarchs, some of whom have known ties to the Russian security services.
There has been a surge in donations from prominent Russians to the Conservative party over the past year.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/boris-j ... ssion=true
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Hang on, didn't she say yesterday that she would work with the Conservatives in hung parliament?
You really really can't trust these Nationalists.
The SNP had tabled a no-confidence motion after Callaghan’s government decided not to introduce devolution to Scotland as the 1979 devolution referendum required 40% of all Scotland’s voters to say yes. After a low turnout, that threshold was not met.
With backing too from the Liberal party, Thatcher tabled an early day motion stating the house had no confidence in Callaghan’s government which went to a vote. Along with unionist MPs from Northern Ireland, the SNP’s 11 MPs voted against Labour, which lost the motion by one vote.
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May I please see whatever 'this one' is, magoo? I will pay you cash to see that. Take bitcoins?
I love bitches n gonna fuck Texas and the USA+ right up their god damn ass! Hallelujah!
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Glastonbury: Visit cancelled because of protesters
Follows:
Stainforth: ‘I don’t want to meet you.'
Leeds: ‘Leave my town’
Doncaster: ‘You’ve a cheek. People have died because of austerity’
Rotherham: ‘Get back to London'
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What do the bookies think? Who cares, they were wrong right up to the last minute too.
Opinion: Bookies declare the U.K. election is all over but the shouting
By Brett Arends
Published: June 8, 2017 12:40 p.m. ET
Bookies now give Theresa May, Tories an 85% chance to win an outright majority
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LONDON — The “pound panic” is over.
British Prime Minister Theresa May and her pro-business Conservative party will overcome the wobbles of a dismal election campaign and win Thursday’s general election.
The country will avoid the perils of a Labour government under its radical-left leader, Jeremy Corbyn. It will also avoid the risks of a so-called “hung” parliament, which despite its promising name merely means a parliament in which no single party holds a majority.
These aren’t my prognostications. They’re just the best guesses of the one group of people here who have a decent chance of being correct.
No, not the opinion pollsters. The bookies.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/booki ... 2017-06-07
Opinion: Bookies declare the U.K. election is all over but the shouting
By Brett Arends
Published: June 8, 2017 12:40 p.m. ET
Bookies now give Theresa May, Tories an 85% chance to win an outright majority
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LONDON — The “pound panic” is over.
British Prime Minister Theresa May and her pro-business Conservative party will overcome the wobbles of a dismal election campaign and win Thursday’s general election.
The country will avoid the perils of a Labour government under its radical-left leader, Jeremy Corbyn. It will also avoid the risks of a so-called “hung” parliament, which despite its promising name merely means a parliament in which no single party holds a majority.
These aren’t my prognostications. They’re just the best guesses of the one group of people here who have a decent chance of being correct.
No, not the opinion pollsters. The bookies.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/booki ... 2017-06-07
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Le Carre, of cold war spy fame ( real name, Cornwell), has just said he won't be voting for Labour because of its stance on anti-Semitism ( IE Labour is against it).
I'm not sure if I agree with him, but I agree with what he said in 2005:
The theme of the most recent le Carré, A Delicate Truth (2013), is the outsourcing of intelligence requirements to commercial contractors, which Cornwell sees as part of a larger picture of the “corporatisation” of Britain. In 2005 he suggested that Britain might be sliding towards fascisim.
“Mussolini’s definition of fascism was that when you can’t distinguish corporate power from governmental power, you are on the way to a fascist state. If you throw in God power and media power, that’s where we are now,” he told an interviewer.
When asked if he was saying that Britain had become a fascist state, he replied:
“Does it strike you as democratic?”
I'm not sure if I agree with him, but I agree with what he said in 2005:
The theme of the most recent le Carré, A Delicate Truth (2013), is the outsourcing of intelligence requirements to commercial contractors, which Cornwell sees as part of a larger picture of the “corporatisation” of Britain. In 2005 he suggested that Britain might be sliding towards fascisim.
“Mussolini’s definition of fascism was that when you can’t distinguish corporate power from governmental power, you are on the way to a fascist state. If you throw in God power and media power, that’s where we are now,” he told an interviewer.
When asked if he was saying that Britain had become a fascist state, he replied:
“Does it strike you as democratic?”
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If you think Jeremy Corbyn is a ‘danger’ to Britain, a ‘traitor’, or just a total clown, it could be too late for you – you’ve been brainwashed by a handful of foreign billionaires.
Who owns 80% of the British press?
If you answered billionaires, you would have been right.
Lord Rothermere, a billionaire living in France, owns the Mail, Mail on Sunday, and the Metro.
Rupert Murdoch, a billionaire US citizen, owns the Sun, Sun on Sunday and is the man behind Fox News, BSkyB, News Corp, etc, etc.
Alexander and Evgeny (son) Lebedev, an Ex KGB Russian Billionaire, owns The Independent, Independent on Sunday, The Evening Standard.
Richard Desmond, a billionaire, did own the Daily Star, Sunday Star, Daily Express, Sunday Express. Now owned by Reach (previously known as Trinity Mirror).
David and Frederick Barclay, billionaire brothers living on a private island near Saark, own the Telegraph, The Spectator, and the Business.
Do you think they are anti Corbyn? Don't even bother to answer.
Who owns 80% of the British press?
If you answered billionaires, you would have been right.
Lord Rothermere, a billionaire living in France, owns the Mail, Mail on Sunday, and the Metro.
Rupert Murdoch, a billionaire US citizen, owns the Sun, Sun on Sunday and is the man behind Fox News, BSkyB, News Corp, etc, etc.
Alexander and Evgeny (son) Lebedev, an Ex KGB Russian Billionaire, owns The Independent, Independent on Sunday, The Evening Standard.
Richard Desmond, a billionaire, did own the Daily Star, Sunday Star, Daily Express, Sunday Express. Now owned by Reach (previously known as Trinity Mirror).
David and Frederick Barclay, billionaire brothers living on a private island near Saark, own the Telegraph, The Spectator, and the Business.
Do you think they are anti Corbyn? Don't even bother to answer.
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The biggest thing that puts me off voting labour is how lefties like kff just keep on banging away so stridently, ignoring objections from other posters. It’s like he thinks that if he keeps shouting loud enough and long enough he will persuade others.
He won’t. Quite the opposite. It pushes people away.
He won’t. Quite the opposite. It pushes people away.
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What objections? If you think I'm banging on, what do call what Johnson's doing? At least I'm offering something new each time. He just keeps repeating the same lies over and over and over. If you have anything to contradict, please call me out on it. You seem to have just brushed over at least the last post. Aren't you at least going to tell me it's not true and that the right wing press, sorry, I mean the press, aren't for the main part anti Corbyn?Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 pmThe biggest thing that puts me off voting labour is how lefties like kff just keep on banging away so stridently, ignoring objections from other posters. It’s like he thinks that if he keeps shouting loud enough and long enough he will persuade others.
He won’t. Quite the opposite. It pushes people away.
You quite obviously would never vote Corbyn, so why pretend you would?
The thing is, the right has nothing to defend itself with anymore, not after the financial disaster they caused with BREXIT. Let alone what the last ten years of Tory and LibDem austerity have done to the country. People aren't as clueless as they were, a lot have woken up to the reality of what's really going on.
Just be happy that all the powers that be are on your side, and leave me a little space.
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My comment was expressly about voting labour. I might be tempted to vote labour tactically if it had a different leadership.
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You Tories need to get your last free lunch in while you still can.
I'm hoping for a double whammy: Trump and Johnson brought down on the same day.
I'm hoping for a double whammy: Trump and Johnson brought down on the same day.
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The thing is Dallow, you just want another Labour like Blair's. But what would be the point? We may as well go back to having just the Tories and the Whigs.Dallow Spicer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:10 amMy comment was expressly about voting labour. I might be tempted to vote labour tactically if it had a different leadership.
The Johnson and the media have been hysterically screaming about Labour's idea to increase the tax that the likes of Google and Facebook pay and offer the whole country and economy free broadband funded with this money. They have derided it as a "crazed Communist idea".
But when you look at the figures it makes total sense.
Google made £1.6 billion from UK sales last year. How much tax did they pay?
50%?45%? 40%?
The figure is actually £28 million. That's only 1.75% Which sounds rather like Johnson and Mogg's idea of BREXIT: a crazed Tory scheme to fuck the country and poor, yet again.
If tomorrow, Labour were to announce that they would introduce free healthcare for all, and call it the National Health Service, it would be met with the same hysterical derision.
But what should really be met with total absolute utter derision is the Tories recent reduction in corporation tax.
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