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raising meat chickens

Postby fritspaap » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:38 am

Who knows anything about the possibilities about raising meat chickens,
i know a guy who just bought 2000 baby chicks for 1 dollar each, and apparently it takes only 1,5 month to grow big and ready to sell for aprox +/- 5 $ a kilo,
anyone who know more about this ??
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby barforsalecambodia » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:42 am

fritspaap wrote:Who knows anything about the possibilities about raising meat chickens,
i know a guy who just bought 2000 baby chicks for 1 dollar each, and apparently it takes only 1,5 month to grow big and ready to sell for aprox +/- 5 $ a kilo,
anyone who know more about this ??


You treat them like they're lifeless objects and keep them 24 hours in the dark, don't let them walk around, hook them up to autofeeders, and inflate them like a balloon. Growth hormones also help according to a colonel that came to Cambodia recently. Watch the documentary Food Inc. to get ideas.

I prefer Cambodian free range but if you're going by kilos, the above methodology makes business sense.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby fritspaap » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:43 pm

i am going for big chest and bubblebutts
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby eight » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:35 pm

If you want a ''farming business'' that will make some money in Cambodia , try GOATS. I'm not talking about those skinny goats you see on the roadside, I talking ''Boer'' meat goats. The French also have a few types of meat goat, and you will see some inbred crossbreeds in Lao. Look at the Cham /Muslin population here, then at the markets. Have you seen goat for sale in them? How much was one kg ? The one good thing about raising goats is most of your customers would want to kill their own, and they are easy to transport, and easier still to handle and raising them. Plenty of farmers in NZ and OZ willing to offer advice and help as most look on it as a hobby they love.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:30 pm

fritspaap wrote:Who knows anything about the possibilities about raising meat chickens,
i know a guy who just bought 2000 baby chicks for 1 dollar each, and apparently it takes only 1,5 month to grow big and ready to sell for aprox +/- 5 $ a kilo,
anyone who know more about this ??

I gots chickens;
going rate is 30000r for 10 chicks, takes about 3 months naturally to reach maturity, then it sells for 10000-17000r a kilo
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:39 pm

eight wrote:If you want a ''farming business'' that will make some money in Cambodia , try GOATS. I'm not talking about those skinny goats you see on the roadside, I talking ''Boer'' meat goats. The French also have a few types of meat goat, and you will see some inbred crossbreeds in Lao. Look at the Cham /Muslin population here, then at the markets. Have you seen goat for sale in them? How much was one kg ? The one good thing about raising goats is most of your customers would want to kill their own, and they are easy to transport, and easier still to handle and raising them. Plenty of farmers in NZ and OZ willing to offer advice and help as most look on it as a hobby they love.

goats one of the cheapest meats, a whole goat goes for about $80
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby fritspaap » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:27 pm

Hey sohi,
how many chickens you got and where you buy & sell them ?
and where u grow them ? :)
and how many % dies =[ ?

thanks man!
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:57 pm

I sold a few recently so I'm down to 5 mature, 7 juviniles and I just had 11 out of 22 eggs hatch this morning. Sometimes I get more or less but i'd say from egg about 40% survive to maturity, once hatched it goes up to 90% ish survival.
I started with 2 ladies and a male bought from the countryside, you can sell at the market wholesale, but I sell direct to locals who like to buy a whole chicken to pick at while drinking, which give me better margins then the market, but a lot less stable demand (wholesale its hard to get more them 10000r/kg, but cooked I can sell for 16000r/kg)
If your in sihanoukville I can hook you up :)
Check the link in my sig thats where i live, i also have ducks which are more expensive and have more eggs ;)
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby Bitteeinbit » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:49 pm

Goat meat is cheap?!! Maye in Australia and NZ... Sounds like an interesting enterprise but you have to like being a farmer/living in the countryside. Definately not for everyone and hopefully you have some previous knowledge about raising chickens. I'm guessing the costs are higher than you would think. It's not just "Buy for 1$, sell for 12$ in 1.5 months". You gotta deduct all those costs which I'm assuming must be higher than you think.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby hanky » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:05 pm

Goat isn't too popular as a meat outside of Chams and Africans, and I doubt either of those bunches eat it enough to make it too profitable. Goats are incredibly destructive animals too, they invented the animal version of the scorched earth tactic. We don't need any more of the horned bastards here unless you want the region to start to look even more like the Middle East or something.


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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:19 am

Bitteeinbit wrote: I'm guessing the costs are higher than you would think. It's not just "Buy for 1$, sell for 12$ in 1.5 months". You gotta deduct all those costs which I'm assuming must be higher than you think.

the only cost is I feed them a little uncooked rice (a few hundred reils worth a day), i dont medicate them, then they eat all the bugs and shit around my land. The only downside is the rooster crowing at 6 am every day
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Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:21 am

ps i dont do goats i just know the price cos I buy a whole goat for parties sometimes
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby eight » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:59 am

sohi wrote:
eight wrote:If you want a ''farming business'' that will make some money in Cambodia , try GOATS. I'm not talking about those skinny goats you see on the roadside, I talking ''Boer'' meat goats. The French also have a few types of meat goat, and you will see some inbred crossbreeds in Lao. Look at the Cham /Muslin population here, then at the markets. Have you seen goat for sale in them? How much was one kg ? The one good thing about raising goats is most of your customers would want to kill their own, and they are easy to transport, and easier still to handle and raising them. Plenty of farmers in NZ and OZ willing to offer advice and help as most look on it as a hobby they love.

goats one of the cheapest meats, a whole goat goes for about $80


$80 for a skinny roadside goat that is all bone, is not cheap. I have only seen goat meat at the soya Lucky market once and the price was around the $11 mark per kg . Comparing those roadside goats to a Boer farmed goat is like comparing village chicken to factory grown chickens.
Interesting to note that the demand for Chevon or Cabrito goat meat in the USA is so high that producers are having a hard time keeping up with supplies.
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby sohi » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:12 am

eight wrote: Comparing those roadside goats to a Boer farmed goat is like comparing village chicken to factory grown chickens.

fair point imported factory farmed chicken is double the cost of local free range
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Re: raising meat chickens

Postby eight » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:16 am

sohi wrote:
Bitteeinbit wrote: I'm guessing the costs are higher than you would think. It's not just "Buy for 1$, sell for 12$ in 1.5 months". You gotta deduct all those costs which I'm assuming must be higher than you think.


the aonly cost is I feed them little uncooked rice (a few hundred reils worth a day),

i dont medicate them, then they eat all the bugs and shit around my land. The only downside is the rooster crowing at 6 am every day


Sohi , I was raising chickens and farming way before you were born,. Now take it from me, feeding uncooked rice is a NO NO. The least you can do is soak the rice in water for a few hours before feeding it to chickens. This way the rice is able to be digested easier and they get the full value of the nutrients in the food. Also dry food is kept in their crop until they need it . and it can swell and kill the birds.. Next , get yourself of to the nearest brewery and you will be able to buy cheap rice which has been used in the malting process of making beer . It's great food for chickens.
The next bit of advice is dont let your chickens free range if you want meat on your birds. They use up to much energy, which should go towards building meat....... Have you ever seen a fat cyclo driver?????
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