Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

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Postby SunSan » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:15 am

I agree that taking in refugees is a good thing. What's not so good is when these refugees turn to crime. Then they get kicked out. Should be more of it.

As for people who go through reams of documents to get refugee status not knowing about the need to eventually apply for citizenship, is that a joke?

Some old granny from the Caucasus maybe, but certainly not for somebody who's had to prove his identity and heritage probably hundreds of times going through refugee camps.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby hanky » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:19 am

Raskolnikov wrote:Nobody on here heard of MS13, its origins and its effects on Central American countries where returnees also got deported? Surprised everyone is so keen to have gang members dumped in Cambodia.


I've posted about MS13 and Central American gangs here before. I don't see any evidence of the Cambodian gang members getting organized and doing much crime here though.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby LTO » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:05 pm

hanky wrote:I've posted about MS13 and Central American gangs here before. I don't see any evidence of the Cambodian gang members getting organized and doing much crime here though.

Yes, it was one of the laundry list fears/threats/whines first expressed in the liberal press near a decade ago when the deportations began. We were supposed to see an uptick in gang activity almost straight away. It never materialized.

A bit funny actually. The bleeding hearts seem torn between the deportees being a bunch of reformed minor offenders and misunderstood public urinators who are no real threat to the US and a mob of dangerous thugs that are a threat to Cambodia.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby Kpal » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:06 am

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see how this article could be labeled as liberal.

Is there any suggestion that this person should not have been deported, was treated unfairly, or that he should be allowed to return to the US?

How about this:
Bunly Bou immigrated from Cambodia to the US at the age of 3.
Bunly Bou committed crimes in the US as an adult and was deported back to Cambodia.
Bunly Bou is having a difficult time living in Cambodia.

That's basically the same story with less detail. Is it also liberal?

This article could just as easily be taken as a warning to others about what can happen if you make poor judgements.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby vladimir » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:52 am

I think it was judged liberal because

1. It's tone was sympathetic toward the 'poor guy'.
2. The real facts of the offence were either ignored or not researched.

In other words, the motive in preparing it was to garner sympathy, not the truth.

In this respect, it seems to have been prepared along the same guidelines as FOX News.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby Kpal » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:08 am

vladimir wrote:I think it was judged liberal because

1. It's tone was sympathetic toward the 'poor guy'.
2. The real facts of the offence were either ignored or not researched.

In other words, the motive in preparing it was to garner sympathy, not the truth.

In this respect, it seems to have been prepared along the same guidelines as FOX News.

I don't have the facts to address #2, however I don't really see a sympathetic tone. Are you sure you're not reading that into it?

I admit I don't know anything about the author or lodinews.com. Maybe one or both tend to be liberal and publish "poor guy" articles. If this was on Fox news here in the US, it would be followed by conservative "we're too easy on criminals" commentary, just as it would be followed by liberal "poor guy" commentary on MSNBC.
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Re: Liberal journos just love Khmer criminals

Postby Mark Cicero » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:56 am

The US has deported thousands of Mexican born criminals back to Mexico. A Mexican friend recently suggested that most of them should not be considered Mexico's problem. Most were brought to the US as children. They were raised in the US and are products of American culture, not Mexican. What's more, he suggested that since English was their first language (often their only language) they would probably make their way back to the US to live clandestine lives as professional criminals, instead of living monitored lives as parolees.

It sound good to dump these criminals back on the countries from which they were born. But from the view of those countries these people are our garbage, not theirs.
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