Does this bother any one else?

[cambod]

I know everyone likes to engage in lawyer bashing. The idea that all or most lawyers are unscrupulous, sleazy, do anything for a buck type people is ludicrous. Everyone should know that painting any group of people with a broad brush and assuming that they are all the same as the lowest common denominator is unfair. As was mentioned in another thread here recently, it's not fair to say that all Khmer women act like bar girls. The vast majority of lawyers are highly ethical and professional people who perform extremely important and valuable services for their clients.

So enough of this kind of nonsense:

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That's right! 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name! Not fair!

[cambod]

... Everyone should know that painting any group of people with a broad brush and assuming that they are all the same as the lowest common denominator is unfair. ..... The vast majority of lawyers are highly ethical and professional people who perform extremely important and valuable services for their clients.

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But....but... you just said we can't paint any group of people with a broad brush.....BUT then u go on to say, "the vast majority of lawyers are..." Shouldn't u just say some are ethical and some aren't? U made quite a generalization there...

And to be frank, I wouldn't think ANY "vast majority" of any group could be considered "highly ethical", especially a group lawyers.

Real talk.

[Alex]

IThe vast majority of lawyers are highly ethical and professional people who perform extremely important and valuable services for their clients.

I wouldn't even take Lawyer Bashing so far as to say that lawyers don't do what they think is in their clients' best interest.

But assuming that this is the case, society as a whole would still be better off if there were less lawyers and less people hiring lawyers, because when too many people try to maximize their personal benefit at any cost, society implodes. Frivolous lawsuits are a very good example, but I'm also thinking about divorce settlements and such. People with common sense should be able to work something like that out without having to pay someone for their "important and valuable" services.

[ChicagoGuy]

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[cambod]

IThe vast majority of lawyers are highly ethical and professional people who perform extremely important and valuable services for their clients.

I wouldn't even take Lawyer Bashing so far as to say that lawyers don't do what they think is in their clients' best interest.

But assuming that this is the case, society as a whole would still be better off if there were less lawyers and less people hiring lawyers, because when too many people try to maximize their personal benefit at any cost, society implodes. Frivolous lawsuits are a very good example, but I'm also thinking about divorce settlements and such. People with common sense should be able to work something like that out without having to pay someone for their "important and valuable" services.

Yeah, to me, the surplus of lawyers in the States is not the cause of the problem, but the result of the problem...

And as the Jerky Boys say, "Sue everyone!"

[vladimir]

Indeed, I think the more rotten society is, the more lawyers they'll need. It seems to be a fairly good indicator for the decline of moral and values.

I guess north Korea must be an angelic state, then.

[cambod]

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Finally! We agree on something!

;-D

[willie]

There is always a need for ethical lawyers. I know only a few.

At the beginning of this thread there was talk about making the test more difficult in order to obtain a law degree. There are many smart layers but to find a lawyer with integrity mixed with brilliance is rare indeed. Winning a 1,000 cases doesn't make a one a respectable lawyer.
Diogenes is still looking .....

[Walter White]

I'm pleased somebody brought up 'Hot Coffee.' Unethical corporations and big business politicians managed to convince US society and much of the world that frivilious lawsuits abound and money-hungry civillians are out to destroy businesses at every turn for a quick buck. Particularly sad is how most people will never know the truth about that poor old lady gruesomely burned by that scalding hot coffee. I'm glad her family got a chance to speak out even though most people still think some clumsy lady dumped her cup while driving and demanded MILLIONS AND MILLIONS from vulnerable, ethics-and-standards abiding McDonalds to pay for a boo-boo.

I burned my tackle with one of those styrofoam cups. I put the cup between my legs as I backed out of a parking stall. As I twisted my torso to see behind me my foot slipped off of the clutch pedal, my legs moved together and broke the cup. Hot coffee pooled around my legs and crotch. Seat belt was automatically locked down tight because I instinctively slammed on the brakes. Damned leather seats. My crotch was trapped in a pool of searing, lava-hot coffee. After returning from the ER, I was blistered and bed-ridden for a week.

Didn't see the need to sue anyone for my own stupidity, but I agree with you that the American media trots out various falsified anecdotes to control public opinion.

[Nirvana]

Ouch!

I burned my tackle with one of those styrofoam cups. I put the cup between my legs as I backed out of a parking stall. As I twisted my torso to see behind me my foot slipped off of the clutch pedal, my legs moved together and broke the cup. Hot coffee pooled around my legs and crotch. Seat belt was automatically locked down tight because I instinctively slammed on the brakes. Damned leather seats. My crotch was trapped in a pool of searing, lava-hot coffee. After returning from the ER, I was blistered and bed-ridden for a week.

Didn't see the need to sue anyone for my own stupidity, but I agree with you that the American media trots out various falsified anecdotes to control public opinion.

In fairness, the woman was a passenger, and the driver pulled over specifically so she could mix the cream and sugar. Originally they'd only wanted an apology, a small amount of money, and for McDonalds not to serve such hot coffee; even their quality control manager admitted coffee of the same temperature would severely burn the throat and mouth if consumed (Lieback received third degree burns). There'd been nearly 1,000 similar cases McDonalds had faced including some they settled, and other establishments enforce limits on how hot coffee should be served.

[vladimir]

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Finally! We agree on something!

;-D

Uh, wait! Is it a 'full-stop' or a 'period' ?

Well, article 458 of section 13 says that (and US vs. Oxford, 1901 refers) ...

[vladimir]

I know everyone likes to engage in lawyer bashing. The idea that all or most lawyers are unscrupulous, sleazy, do anything for a buck type people is ludicrous. Everyone should know that painting any group of people with a broad brush and assuming that they are all the same as the lowest common denominator is unfair. As was mentioned in another thread here recently, it's not fair to say that all Khmer women act like bar girls. The vast majority of lawyers are highly ethical and professional people who perform extremely important and valuable services for their clients.

So enough of this kind of nonsense:

It's a disgusting testimony to todays total lack of morals. Lazy shitheads trying to 'legally' steal another's wealth.

They should go out and give value to society if they want wealth and the lawyers should be put in re-education centres and not rewarded financially for f*ing over innocents as they currently are.

(There are not 50,000 wrongdoing evil overlords oppressing the poor everyday).

Indeed, I think the more rotten society is, the more lawyers they'll need. It seems to be a fairly good indicator for the decline of moral and values.

An indicator or a cause?

OK, CG, let's put this to the test.

friend of mine, elderly guy, was working for a very well-known university (andy may know them) slipped on his butt, broke his arm, had to give up his classes, the uni is very hesitant to pay even $1. Sounds like a classic IOD case to me. This is the $64000 question: will anyone do it pro-bono?