Now that made me laugh out loud.CavernPubPP wrote:Do you think it's a good idea to teach him that you can get paid to do work, could upset the apple cart here and destabilise the country.
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'shey-you wrote:Definitly a good idea. Start off by giving $1 every day then as he learns to manage the money raise it and pay it every week. On the start of the new year, buy him a 2013 diary and make [ show him ] write every thing he gets and spends in the diary. If it's not written in the diary, deduct it from the next payment. Later in life when he runs a business he will apreaciate what he has learnt from you.
Yes having someone monitor every riel he spends will sure teach him fiscal responsibility! He's 17 not 5, if he's not figured this out yet, then he's a lost cause. Just discreetly slip him $20 every once in a while and tell him not to spend all of it on booze and silly hair cuts.
The only way you'll offend someone in this country by giving them money is if they are of equal or higher status than yourself. Everyone else will accept it respectfully when offered without doing the silly western routine where you pretend that you don't want it, even when you do.
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i think the idea is more to teach him to monitor it himself.
hell... i don't do it. i'm horrible with money. especially when drinking.
this kids kind of a weird 17 year old (to me)... doesn't do the haircut thing, doesn't drink (actually turns his nose up at the rice wine he and his father make, lol.) studies all the time he's not doing some chore or watching the 1 hour show he likes to watch on TV. i did get him hooked into killing zombies on call of duty for a while, but he got bored with it.
hell... i don't do it. i'm horrible with money. especially when drinking.
this kids kind of a weird 17 year old (to me)... doesn't do the haircut thing, doesn't drink (actually turns his nose up at the rice wine he and his father make, lol.) studies all the time he's not doing some chore or watching the 1 hour show he likes to watch on TV. i did get him hooked into killing zombies on call of duty for a while, but he got bored with it.
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I have several alike teenagers in my extended my family / all straight as a dice .if I need something done ( car washed, garden done, beers and ice fetched, random purchase at market etc) I always ask "who wants to earn done pocketmoney ?". Resounding answer is always yes. How else do they save to pay for things they want like any kid ?OrangeDragon wrote:i think the idea is more to teach him to monitor it himself.
hell... i don't do it. i'm horrible with money. especially when drinking.
this kids kind of a weird 17 year old (to me)... doesn't do the haircut thing, doesn't drink (actually turns his nose up at the rice wine he and his father make, lol.) studies all the time he's not doing some chore or watching the 1 hour show he likes to watch on TV. i did get him hooked into killing zombies on call of duty for a while, but he got bored with it.
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Don't spoil the brad by condition him, that for everything he does, he needs to get a payment.
And what more posters wrote: Help him to decently manage his earnings. Most Cambodians know only one thing: Spent asap, tomorrow doesn't exist.
And what more posters wrote: Help him to decently manage his earnings. Most Cambodians know only one thing: Spent asap, tomorrow doesn't exist.
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Yup, the perfect 'solution'. I was going to facetiously suggest you give him a loan - since every non-wealthy Khmer is in hock to sharky moneylenders and you might as well teach him early how to manage debts.ricecakes wrote:I have several alike teenagers in my extended my family / all straight as a dice .if I need something done ( car washed, garden done, beers and ice fetched, random purchase at market etc) I always ask "who wants to earn done pocketmoney ?". Resounding answer is always yes. How else do they save to pay for things they want like any kid ?
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An unacceptable remark, coming from a teacher.starkmonster wrote:'shey-you wrote:Definitly a good idea. Start off by giving $1 every day then as he learns to manage the money raise it and pay it every week. On the start of the new year, buy him a 2013 diary and make [ show him ] write every thing he gets and spends in the diary. If it's not written in the diary, deduct it from the next payment. Later in life when he runs a business he will apreaciate what he has learnt from you.
Yes having someone monitor every riel he spends will sure teach him fiscal responsibility!
He's 17 not 5, if he's not figured this out yet, then he's a lost cause.
Just discreetly slip him $20 every once in a while and tell him not to spend all of it on booze and silly hair cuts.
The only way you'll offend someone in this country by giving them money is if they are of equal or higher status than yourself. Everyone else will accept it respectfully when offered without doing the silly western routine where you pretend that you don't want it, even when you do.
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No they just dole it out and kids end up with a warped sense of the value of money and how hard it can be to come by sometimes. hence the value of an allowance or pocket money directly related to / as a reward for chores.johnny99 wrote: I have never heard of Khmers giving allowances.
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Ricecakes,
This thread seemed to be discussing more normal Khmers not the Lexus driving nouveau rich.
Just like anything every thing in moderation is best.
johnny
This thread seemed to be discussing more normal Khmers not the Lexus driving nouveau rich.
Just like anything every thing in moderation is best.
johnny
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I'm not a teacher, so is it acceptable now? Micromanagement is the exact reason many kids in this country can't think for themselves, it's all too common for every aspect of their life to be decided by someone else. We all learn from mistakes, not lectures and rules.hey-you wrote:An unacceptable remark, coming from a teacher.starkmonster wrote:'shey-you wrote:Definitly a good idea. Start off by giving $1 every day then as he learns to manage the money raise it and pay it every week. On the start of the new year, buy him a 2013 diary and make [ show him ] write every thing he gets and spends in the diary. If it's not written in the diary, deduct it from the next payment. Later in life when he runs a business he will apreaciate what he has learnt from you.
Yes having someone monitor every riel he spends will sure teach him fiscal responsibility!
He's 17 not 5, if he's not figured this out yet, then he's a lost cause.
Just discreetly slip him $20 every once in a while and tell him not to spend all of it on booze and silly hair cuts.
The only way you'll offend someone in this country by giving them money is if they are of equal or higher status than yourself. Everyone else will accept it respectfully when offered without doing the silly western routine where you pretend that you don't want it, even when you do.
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i think we learn from both. it takes someone showing us the right way, and then if we don't do it that right way... some sort of negative consequence. i think that's what he's suggesting. where as just letting him blow it then live without until the next week, etc might teach him to spend a little more wisely... but doesn't show him a useful way to manage that and budget.
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My wife and her brother were given allowances by their parents from the age of 5 upwards. They learned excellent financial management skills.johnny99 wrote: I have never heard of Khmers giving allowances. johnny
My wife has just chipped in with her solution, OD. She says if you just pay him for household chores he'll resent that so you should give him a basic retainer as pocket money, and give him the opportunity to supplement it by doing additional jobs for you. She thinks it would be a compromise that would respect his dignity but also encourage him to be responsible.
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nice. thanks to both of you.andyinasia wrote:My wife and her brother were given allowances by their parents from the age of 5 upwards. They learned excellent financial management skills.johnny99 wrote: I have never heard of Khmers giving allowances. johnny
My wife has just chipped in with her solution, OD. She says if you just pay him for household chores he'll resent that so you should give him a basic retainer as pocket money, and give him the opportunity to supplement it by doing additional jobs for you. She thinks it would be a compromise that would respect his dignity but also encourage him to be responsible.
decent idea. i'm thinking i'll pick up a can of wax and a can of chrome polish for my bike. let him detail it once a week if he wants to earn some extra dough.
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do Cambodians give their children pocket money? If so, how much?
anybody has any ideas how much the children earn a day collecting bottles on the streets?
thanks!
anybody has any ideas how much the children earn a day collecting bottles on the streets?
thanks!
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