7 Reasons Not to Friend a Khmer Woman on Facebook
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Yes, posting photos of your murdered brother's corpse may be a socially inappropriate use of Facebook. What kind of people then click "like" when they see those photos?
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I really don't want to go to the lop~lop side of Facebook. But is there a way to mitigate this? It's really distressing to see young Cambodians getting extremely wrong habits which they think are righteous and voicing dumb-as-fuck and/or extremist opinions.
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I have a new Facebook theory. I think you can tell how much a Cambodian woman loves her boyfriend or husband by checking how many of the photos she posts on Facebook include her husband. A lot of Western dudes with younger Asian girlfriends seem to go overboard on Facebook posting photos of the young girlfriend. The guy's Facebook profile picture may be a photo of both of them (or maybe even just a photo of the girl) and then the majority of the dude's Facebook photos are him with the girlfriend or just photos of the girlfriend. My girlfriend at dinner, my girlfriend at the beach. It's like these guys are screaming "Hey, look, I have a younger, attractive girlfriend over here!"
Meanwhile, the girl has her own Facebook page which she regularly updates with photos of herself or her family and you would never know she had a boyfriend or husband from what she posts on Facebook.
This doesn't just apply to Western-Cambodian couples, I know a young Cambodian woman who recently married a Cambodian man in an arranged marriage type thing. She still posts about three selfies a day on Facebook; I have no idea what her husband looks like.
Meanwhile, the girl has her own Facebook page which she regularly updates with photos of herself or her family and you would never know she had a boyfriend or husband from what she posts on Facebook.
This doesn't just apply to Western-Cambodian couples, I know a young Cambodian woman who recently married a Cambodian man in an arranged marriage type thing. She still posts about three selfies a day on Facebook; I have no idea what her husband looks like.
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I agree with that theory. People don't post many Facebook pics of them working. (Or at least I think that's right. I'm not a huge facebooker.) If their dating their boyfriend is their work, then they aren't going to post pics of their boyfriends.
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There is a serious point here. You have to realise only two years ago only 3% of Cambodians had access to the internet - currently it is 25% and rising rapidly. In other words, the internet - and Facebook in particular - is a very new phenomenon. Overnight young Cambodians have gained access to the technology and the resources, but what they don't have is the education to know how to use it. In the West we grew up with IT developing quickly, but not as fast as today, and up to a point we had time to educate ourselves about the pitfalls of using the internet. You can't blame Cambodians for going 'lop lop'; what is so important is that they gain the critical faculties and wherewithal to cope with them. The problem is, who teaches them? Parents? They don't know. Teachers? It's new for Khmer teachers too. Westerners? Yes, we are the ones who have the background and experience, but who's going to ask us? Schools ought to be asking us to incorporate sensible use of the internet into English lessons - far more useful than units on visiting an art gallery in Spain. But I don't know of any Principals/DoS who have considered this.Joon wrote:I really don't want to go to the lop~lop side of Facebook. But is there a way to mitigate this? It's really distressing to see young Cambodians getting extremely wrong habits which they think are righteous and voicing dumb-as-fuck and/or extremist opinions.
Nb. GM - opposite in my case. I can't stop my missus posting a dozen photos of us every day, and having male and female, Khmer and British friends liking and making cheesy comments. What I post on my Facebook page is mostly a mixture of social comment and fun - very little is family oriented. Maybe the kind of Facebook people you look up are a different demographic to me - at least, the only Facebook friend I have who posts embarrassing nonsense like that is my wife - I quickly unfriend anyone else.
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This.andyinasia wrote:Schools ought to be asking us to incorporate sensible use of the internet into English lessons - far more useful than units on visiting an art gallery in Spain. But I don't know of any Principals/DoS who have considered this.
I suggested it and was shot down in flames. 'Waste of time.'
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Seriously ?
Teaching how to use the internet should be among the first lesson.
When you are a student you can not be sure how you will have to use English in the future with real people, but you can be sure as hell that you will have to use it on the net.
For the school is like having a giant schoolbook for free.
Teaching how to use the internet should be among the first lesson.
When you are a student you can not be sure how you will have to use English in the future with real people, but you can be sure as hell that you will have to use it on the net.
For the school is like having a giant schoolbook for free.
I feel slightly depressed that:
1) 'unfriend' is now an accepted part if the English language;
2) that one of K440's most intelligent and well-read posters just used it without blushing; and
3) that I knew what he meant.
1) 'unfriend' is now an accepted part if the English language;
2) that one of K440's most intelligent and well-read posters just used it without blushing; and
3) that I knew what he meant.
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or if you ever break up with her, she will start stalking your facebook friends and demonize you to them
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I can only think of 3 groups of people who would use facebook:
Businesses
Teenagers
Work-seekers, but I would think professionals would use something else, say Linkedin
fwiw, teachers in Germany are prohibited from contacting students via facebook, and face criminal prosecution if they do so.
Good law, imho.
Businesses
Teenagers
Work-seekers, but I would think professionals would use something else, say Linkedin
fwiw, teachers in Germany are prohibited from contacting students via facebook, and face criminal prosecution if they do so.
Good law, imho.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Schools or universities don't seem to be the appropriate platforms for learning Netiquette, online social manners and even just basically critical thinking and moderation.andyinasia wrote:There is a serious point here. You have to realise only two years ago only 3% of Cambodians had access to the internet - currently it is 25% and rising rapidly. In other words, the internet - and Facebook in particular - is a very new phenomenon. Overnight young Cambodians have gained access to the technology and the resources, but what they don't have is the education to know how to use it. In the West we grew up with IT developing quickly, but not as fast as today, and up to a point we had time to educate ourselves about the pitfalls of using the internet. You can't blame Cambodians for going 'lop lop'; what is so important is that they gain the critical faculties and wherewithal to cope with them. The problem is, who teaches them? Parents? They don't know. Teachers? It's new for Khmer teachers too. Westerners? Yes, we are the ones who have the background and experience, but who's going to ask us? Schools ought to be asking us to incorporate sensible use of the internet into English lessons - far more useful than units on visiting an art gallery in Spain. But I don't know of any Principals/DoS who have considered this.Joon wrote:I really don't want to go to the lop~lop side of Facebook. But is there a way to mitigate this? It's really distressing to see young Cambodians getting extremely wrong habits which they think are righteous and voicing dumb-as-fuck and/or extremist opinions.
I'm not an active Facebook user but even if I tried to point out what is wrong with whatever Cambodians post on Facebook, my voice is lost among the dozens, hundreds other people who encourage such behavior, by which I mean, self-centered, narcissic, moody, self-righteous, and outright extremist at times.
How can you "educate" them in such context?
I didn't have any crash course when I first got on the Internet back in 1999. But I had a solid education and self-teaching in critical thinking and analysis.
How can one encourage young Cambodians to be less concerned with superficiality (appearance, display of wealth, approval seeking, fame, etc)?
And most of them don't get Western-style sarcasm.
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Read what some of the expats post on this board, and you will realise that it is not a uniquely Cambodian problem. In fact, I would say a couple of posters are more concerned with display of wealth than many Khmers I've met.Joon wrote:How can one encourage young Cambodians to be less concerned with superficiality (appearance, display of wealth, approval seeking, fame, etc)?
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
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Doesn't the rest of your post reinforce my argument? Why do you say schools and unis are inappropriate? I'm saying Western and Western-educated Khmer teachers are ideally placed to educate the youth on 'Netiquette'. What's your objection to that?Joon wrote:Schools or universities don't seem to be the appropriate platforms for learning Netiquette, online social manners and even just basically critical thinking and moderation.andyinasia wrote:There is a serious point here. You have to realise only two years ago only 3% of Cambodians had access to the internet - currently it is 25% and rising rapidly. In other words, the internet - and Facebook in particular - is a very new phenomenon. Overnight young Cambodians have gained access to the technology and the resources, but what they don't have is the education to know how to use it. In the West we grew up with IT developing quickly, but not as fast as today, and up to a point we had time to educate ourselves about the pitfalls of using the internet. You can't blame Cambodians for going 'lop lop'; what is so important is that they gain the critical faculties and wherewithal to cope with them. The problem is, who teaches them? Parents? They don't know. Teachers? It's new for Khmer teachers too. Westerners? Yes, we are the ones who have the background and experience, but who's going to ask us? Schools ought to be asking us to incorporate sensible use of the internet into English lessons - far more useful than units on visiting an art gallery in Spain. But I don't know of any Principals/DoS who have considered this.Joon wrote:I really don't want to go to the lop~lop side of Facebook. But is there a way to mitigate this? It's really distressing to see young Cambodians getting extremely wrong habits which they think are righteous and voicing dumb-as-fuck and/or extremist opinions.
I'm not an active Facebook user but even if I tried to point out what is wrong with whatever Cambodians post on Facebook, my voice is lost among the dozens, hundreds other people who encourage such behavior, by which I mean, self-centered, narcissic, moody, self-righteous, and outright extremist at times.
How can you "educate" them in such context?
I didn't have any crash course when I first got on the Internet back in 1999. But I had a solid education and self-teaching in critical thinking and analysis.
How can one encourage young Cambodians to be less concerned with superficiality (appearance, display of wealth, approval seeking, fame, etc)?
And most of them don't get Western-style sarcasm.
Scoobz - well as an English teacher I feel obligated to keep up with the latest neologisms. I do indeed hate the term with a passion.
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I still find facebook fun and enjoy catching up with people from my schooldays and the children of my contemporaries. But what is vlads obsession with money, or in his case the lack thereof.
Gotta jump in the elevator and have a few beers and a swim on the roof with the family.
Gotta jump in the elevator and have a few beers and a swim on the roof with the family.
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