Salary for Dean of the Hospitality & Tourism School?
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Salary for Dean of the Hospitality & Tourism School?
I found this job vacancy:
https://reliefweb.int/job/2262179/dean- ... ism-school
The job spec and applicant requirements seem to have been written for me (with 12 years building and managing hotels in Thailand, 5 years teaching or as school Principal in Myanmar and Laos, and a couple of years of non-profit work in the educational sector.
But there is no mention of salary...
For those who live in PP and 'have a feel' for education vacancies, what salary do you think this job would offer? Is it a grand job title, but with a shitty salary? I earn $3,000 net per month in Myanmar as a KG teacher, and although this job title sounds very respectable, I don't want to waste my time if it is just a 'white-face puppet' job (been there, done that).
https://reliefweb.int/job/2262179/dean- ... ism-school
The job spec and applicant requirements seem to have been written for me (with 12 years building and managing hotels in Thailand, 5 years teaching or as school Principal in Myanmar and Laos, and a couple of years of non-profit work in the educational sector.
But there is no mention of salary...
For those who live in PP and 'have a feel' for education vacancies, what salary do you think this job would offer? Is it a grand job title, but with a shitty salary? I earn $3,000 net per month in Myanmar as a KG teacher, and although this job title sounds very respectable, I don't want to waste my time if it is just a 'white-face puppet' job (been there, done that).
Isn't kindergarten to Dean of tourism and hospitality a bit of a switch? Not being funny, just saying.
I'd guess $2000 max, but happy to be wrong.
I'd guess $2000 max, but happy to be wrong.
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LoL, sounds it, but the job requirement seeks someone with teaching and/or hospitality experience. I'm currently a KG teacher, but previously taught teenagers and adults, previously managed a school as the Headmaster and Director, previously was Assistant Principal at another school, and previously built and managed 4 small hotels. Oh, I also was a T&H lecturer.Isn't kindergarten to Dean of tourism and hospitality a bit of a switch? Not being funny, just saying.
But your guess of $2,000 is along the lines of what I was thinking ==> better for me to stay in my current job.
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why not just ask them??
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'Cos they are very likely not to tell me, (based on my previous job-application experience in Asia). I note this job is advertised on several different web-sites without any salary details.why not just ask them??
Anyway, I also note that the school is owned by a French NGO. A salary better than $3,000 net per month? No chance. I'll pass.
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Am I wrong in thinking phuketdick2000 has never had a position where he had to negotiate salary and therefore obviously doesn’t understand that it is quite common not to state salary in many job advertisments and not the usual practise to ask what the salary is in the pre/early stages of a job application. It can actually cost a person a chance of securing the job to ask that at the ‘wrong’ time.
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
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You might think your profile is a match, but they might be more after someone with real hotel/top restaurant HR experience than "building and managing" a bunch of small places.
No disrespect intended but the fact that you switched industries proves you're no real hospitality professional. I may be wrong but I doubt Hanno would disagree. Otoh such a real pro would certainly command at least 4k, even in Cambodia.
No disrespect intended but the fact that you switched industries proves you're no real hospitality professional. I may be wrong but I doubt Hanno would disagree. Otoh such a real pro would certainly command at least 4k, even in Cambodia.
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The notion of switching industries being a megative is very ‘last generation’logos wrote:You might think your profile is a match, but they might be more after someone with real hotel/top restaurant HR experience than "building and managing" a bunch of small places.
No disrespect intended but the fact that you switched industries proves you're no real hospitality professional. I may be wrong but I doubt Hanno would disagree. Otoh such a real pro would certainly command at least 4k, even in Cambodia.
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That's besides the point. If I want to hire a pro I'm not interested in self-taught dilettantes.
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But it’s absolutely fair to ask for an indicative salary or the salary range. Anyone potential employer who is unwilling to release that information will limit the number of applicants. Who wants to waste their time applying for something which would end up being a step down salary wise.violet wrote:Am I wrong in thinking phuketdick2000 has never had a position where he had to negotiate salary and therefore obviously doesn’t understand that it is quite common not to state salary in many job advertisments and not the usual practise to ask what the salary is in the pre/early stages of a job application. It can actually cost a person a chance of securing the job to ask that at the ‘wrong’ time.
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
PhucketR’s comment is absolutely fair and reasonable.
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Agreed and you can certainly shoot yourself in foot, especially when they ask "how much are you currently making" or "how much are you expecting to get?" I think it's certainly logical to ask here what people think a reasonable salary for a position is.violet wrote:Am I wrong in thinking phuketdick2000 has never had a position where he had to negotiate salary and therefore obviously doesn’t understand that it is quite common not to state salary in many job advertisments and not the usual practise to ask what the salary is in the pre/early stages of a job application. It can actually cost a person a chance of securing the job to ask that at the ‘wrong’ time.
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
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Kinda correct, any jobs i have had, ( except those i had when i was under 30 and never in se asia) , they came to me and i told them what i wanted.violet wrote:Am I wrong in thinking phuketdick2000 has never had a position where he had to negotiate salary and therefore obviously doesn’t understand that it is quite common not to state salary in many job advertisments and not the usual practise to ask what the salary is in the pre/early stages of a job application. It can actually cost a person a chance of securing the job to ask that at the ‘wrong’ time.
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
so ur saying u apply for a job not knowing what they are going to pay you? Wow
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I totally agree it is fair to ask for indicative salary on the forum or elsewhere.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:But it’s absolutely fair to ask for an indicative salary or the salary range. Anyone potential employer who is unwilling to release that information will limit the number of applicants. Who wants to waste their time applying for something which would end up being a step down salary wise.violet wrote:Am I wrong in thinking phuketdick2000 has never had a position where he had to negotiate salary and therefore obviously doesn’t understand that it is quite common not to state salary in many job advertisments and not the usual practise to ask what the salary is in the pre/early stages of a job application. It can actually cost a person a chance of securing the job to ask that at the ‘wrong’ time.
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
PhucketR’s comment is absolutely fair and reasonable.
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Phuket2006 wrote:Kinda correct, any jobs i have had, ( except those i had when i was under 30 and never in se asia) , they came to me and i told them what i wanted.violet wrote:Am I wrong in thinking phuketdick2000 has never had a position where he had to negotiate salary and therefore obviously doesn’t understand that it is quite common not to state salary in many job advertisments and not the usual practise to ask what the salary is in the pre/early stages of a job application. It can actually cost a person a chance of securing the job to ask that at the ‘wrong’ time.
I understand, and appreciate, that the person (...cough) who set up the Cambodia Jobs FB group has a policy that salary/expected salary should be stated in posts but it really isn’t done all over the world ( yes, i realise that is no argument for operating differently)
so ur saying u apply for a job not knowing what they are going to pay you? Wow
My point is it isn’t an uncommon situation in the corporate world, so a person needs to have a good idea of what the salary range is and then negotiate.
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