More rubbish from you. It was the Romans that created Belgium.TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:50 pmI would have more sympathy if you said French but it's close enough.
Sad that is the British who created Belgium. See the thanks we get?
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I take it you did not study European history at school?Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:14 pm
More rubbish from you. It was the Romans that created Belgium.
Belgium only became an independent country granted by the "Great Powers" led by Great Britain in London on 20 December 1830
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All I know is that we got fed up with the Dutch, rightfully kicked them out and gained our independence. A bit like the Scots will do with those ignorant toff Brits in a few months after Brexit.TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:23 pmI take it you did not study European history at school?Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:14 pm
More rubbish from you. It was the Romans that created Belgium.
Belgium only became an independent country granted by the "Great Powers" led by Great Britain in London on 20 December 1830
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All I know is that we got fed up with the Dutch, rightfully kicked them out and gained our independence. A bit like the Scots will do with those ignorant toff Brits in a few months after Brexit.
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You are aware that the Scots are also Brits?
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I always thought we invented Belgium so some unemployed obscure royal relative would have something to do all day being king of it. An early form of job creation, if you will.
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then it's time to get some private health insurance or find somewhere cheaper to live, just like everyone else in the world has to!EIKROY wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:24 amMr Reaper, just imagine you're a 70 year old couple who retired to Spain 10 years ago with state pensions and your healthcare ,which is covered by UK/ EU National Insurance contributions. ( EHIC ). But In the last 3 years your pensions has fallen from 1,700 Euros pm to 1,430 Euros pm, AND, if there's a NO DEAL your healthcare costs will be estimated at 340 Euros pm.
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Modern history buff I see. You must have gone to a comprehensive.TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:23 pmI take it you did not study European history at school?Chneseexpat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:14 pm
More rubbish from you. It was the Romans that created Belgium.
Belgium only became an independent country granted by the "Great Powers" led by Great Britain in London on 20 December 1830
The Romans took over the part of the country known by them as Belgium. Distinct from the marshy lands
(modern day Netherlands), and inhabited by war like hill tribes that thought they could take on the Romans. They couldn't. That become the first division of that rough area into two distinct parts. From just about then on, the Spanish owned it and tried many times unsuccessfully to take over what we know as The Netherlands today. The Belgians were royalists, and sided with the Spanish over their neighbours every time. The Dutch were democrats, and had at least two poor people on every council.
Not so simple as to explain in a paragraph though.
XxBelgium was a name chosen when the modern country was created, but it has a long history. It is originally a classical name, used by Julius Caesar, which continued to be used occasionally in different ways until the creation the modern country. However, while Caesar described the Belgian part of Gaul as a larger area, much bigger than modern Belgium, including large parts of modern France, Germany and the Netherlands, he only used the term "Belgium" to refer to a smaller core area now in Northern France, where the tribes ruling the Belgian military alliance lived. Under Roman rule this region was the basis of the province of Belgica Secunda, which stretched into the coastal Flemish part of modern Belgium.
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Spot on. That is exactly what happened on 20th December 1830.
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Cheesy, we are referring to Belgium as an independent country, not a region.
Belgium as is today, not 2,000 years ago when you were at school.
Belgium as is today, not 2,000 years ago when you were at school.
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for those interested in a bit more recent (and relevant) history, in the last two years alone 3500 Brits have become Belgians. The trend has been accelerating as Brexit is looming, and it's of course even much larger in Ireland.TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pmSpot on. That is exactly what happened on 20th December 1830.
Did someone mention job preservation?
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Going to take a few days off to understand better the current EU trends.
Germany has gone into recession and Holland has outperformed them. Growth across the Eurozone halved last quarter, from 0.4% to 0.2%, with France growing by 0.2% and Italy stagnating. Unemployment is high in France and Spain and will only get worse.
Last year, the UK had a massive £93 Billion trade deficit in goods with the EU so think on that one. According to many, Holland stand to lose out the most so that needs looking at.
Looking at how important the UK market is to the EU makes you wonder how these countries will fare if they decide to "blockade" the UK with high tariffs. As the UK has a massive deficit within the EU reference internal trade, the EU stand to lose out big time. Spain have already stated that a no deal will cripple regions like Andalusia which is dependent on the UK for it's economy. Ireland has accepted it will go into recession with a no deal so let's see how hungry the EU chiefs are for such a scenario. This will take some looking at.
Logos. While not doubting your figures, it would be useful if you gave a link as to your source. According to the BBC, of the 25,000 Brits living in Belgium, only a handful have applied for citizenship. The only ones I would imagine who want it are those working for Belgium companies or in the EU Commission itself. There are a lot better avenues of EU citizenship than Belgium for UK citizens. Looking at the Belgium economy, without the EU being headquartered there, you would really be in trouble so I understand your particular reason for liking the EU.
Germany has gone into recession and Holland has outperformed them. Growth across the Eurozone halved last quarter, from 0.4% to 0.2%, with France growing by 0.2% and Italy stagnating. Unemployment is high in France and Spain and will only get worse.
Last year, the UK had a massive £93 Billion trade deficit in goods with the EU so think on that one. According to many, Holland stand to lose out the most so that needs looking at.
Looking at how important the UK market is to the EU makes you wonder how these countries will fare if they decide to "blockade" the UK with high tariffs. As the UK has a massive deficit within the EU reference internal trade, the EU stand to lose out big time. Spain have already stated that a no deal will cripple regions like Andalusia which is dependent on the UK for it's economy. Ireland has accepted it will go into recession with a no deal so let's see how hungry the EU chiefs are for such a scenario. This will take some looking at.
Logos. While not doubting your figures, it would be useful if you gave a link as to your source. According to the BBC, of the 25,000 Brits living in Belgium, only a handful have applied for citizenship. The only ones I would imagine who want it are those working for Belgium companies or in the EU Commission itself. There are a lot better avenues of EU citizenship than Belgium for UK citizens. Looking at the Belgium economy, without the EU being headquartered there, you would really be in trouble so I understand your particular reason for liking the EU.
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Thus greatly benefiting the average IQ of both countries.logos wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:25 pmfor those interested in a bit more recent (and relevant) history, in the last two years alone 3500 Brits have become Belgians.TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pmSpot on. That is exactly what happened on 20th December 1830.
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Your disregard of historical facts and complete lack of discernment on Brexit issues reveal you.TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:00 pmCheesy, we are referring to Belgium as an independent country, not a region.
Belgium as is today, not 2,000 years ago when you were at school.
On other news, Bolton met Johnson, and it's all looking good for chlorinated chicken gourmets and NHS haters as deals have been promised to be made if a no deal Brexit happens.
Except.
There is no way in hell parliament, the EU or congress will support the breaking of the Good Friday agreement. Only a complete nutter would want to do that.
Over to you, TGR.
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