What does it mean to be the fittest/strongest when we speak of survival?
It's the mimes behind it all. Everyone knows that.
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slavedog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:28 amYes, I read your teenage ramblings. I don't think you understand mindfulness. It's not about turning off your mind in order to live in blissful ignorance. It's more about being able to control to what you put your mind and when. And in doing so maintain a rational perspective.violet wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:12 pmMindfulness. Did you not read my initial posts or did you throw it in here as a playful jab? Finding ways to avoid the uncomfortable questions in life is one way of choosing to get through it. It is not my way.slavedog wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:38 pmYes, I would dismiss it in the same way. I don't think I particularly display a lot of respect to any posters on here, although there are people who post on here whom I like and respect, yourself included.
I just think that it is not healthy to get into one's thirties and certainly forties and still be thinking about these kind of abstract propositions so much that it causes one mental anguish. Such matters are best left to first year philosophy students to debate after a drunken night out.
Rather than posting on here looking for answers that don't exist, I would suggest reading some philosophy. Stoicism would be the obvious place to start.
Or some books on mindfulness, which draws from various wisdoms such as Buddhism. I'm not especially in to it myself, but people seem to be using it more and more as an antidote to the stresses of life in the modern world.
These words from the Serenity Prayer seem appropriate:
Grant to us the serenity of mind to accept that which cannot be changed;
courage to change that which can be changed,
and wisdom to know the one from the other.
funny ,other people I have spoken to have said (when speaking not writing) that I say it so clearly, they say they agree with me. others have said they learned some information they weren't aware of, because they just don't know about emerging technology capabilities.
So, I'll choose to ignore the people like Scobienz. I'll choose to ignore you saying my posts are like teenage ramblings.
I do understand mindfulness. I just don't practice it. Why would I want to control my thoughts to not think about this stuff? Because it causes me unease? Well, that seems a weird way to live to me... to only want to focus on the fluffy stuff (and people call others snowflakes!).
I could write a lot more, but, this time I'll listen to Alexandra (having ignored Alexandra's previous advice by even starting this thread). And it isn't because people disagree with me. It's about how they disagree, how they listen/read (or not as is the case here), how they come with preconceived notions of who I am rather than caring about the topic. People don't care about the topic. So I won't bother.
I am not like you lot. It's a wonder I ever enjoyed being in Cambodia. Despite what many will think from social media postings while there, I enjoyed Cambodia (as it was for me... I suspect my Cambodia was nothing like the real Cambodia as it is for many of you longtermers, but that is like life anywhere, isn't it?). While I still miss aspects of it, I have no idea if it would be a good place for me to be at any point in the future. As I have said before, there seemed to be a lot of people not really having genuine conversations and there is a way of operating that doesn't sit well with me. I'm not a hard assed bad ass. I can get angry and lash out, but I'm mush really (inside and outside). It seems Cambodia (or the expats) spit those types out.
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Let me add a couple of scenarios that might register with some of you.
How about if facial recognition gets used to track who journalists are meeting with to get their stories?
How about if facial recognition is used to track groups of people gathering together, simply because one of the people among you (perhaps unknown to you) is a criminal or suspected. criminal? What if all of the people at a gathering (say, a boat trip) become watched 24 hours?
What if your partner (wife/jealous girlfriend) pays someone to track you and see who you meet?
What if your male ex partner tracks you because he is waiting until you are vulnerable and he can attack?
How about if facial recognition gets used to track who journalists are meeting with to get their stories?
How about if facial recognition is used to track groups of people gathering together, simply because one of the people among you (perhaps unknown to you) is a criminal or suspected. criminal? What if all of the people at a gathering (say, a boat trip) become watched 24 hours?
What if your partner (wife/jealous girlfriend) pays someone to track you and see who you meet?
What if your male ex partner tracks you because he is waiting until you are vulnerable and he can attack?
The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be kindled.
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Wrong. It’s the lizard people.
Haha - my money’s on Playboy
Well those people must not have access to tv, radio or newspapers as it's being discussed constantly. Hardly a day goes by without a programme on BBC World Service.violet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:44 amfunny ,other people I have spoken to have said (when speaking not writing) that I say it so clearly, they say they agree with me. others have said they learned some information they weren't aware of, because they just don't know about emerging technology capabilities.
It's clear from your answer that you have misunderstood it. I don't practice it myself as I am blessed with a naturally uncluttered mind.
But if I ever found myself having the kind of crazy thoughts that you describe in your OP, I would start practicing it pretty damned quick.
Believe or not, I was trying to be helpful.
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
All of these things have been happening for centuries, since the beginning of human civilisation even. They are the product of HUMAN NATURE. The only thing that has changed is the method.violet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:28 amLet me add a couple of scenarios that might register with some of you.
How about if facial recognition gets used to track who journalists are meeting with to get their stories?
How about if facial recognition is used to track groups of people gathering together, simply because one of the people among you (perhaps unknown to you) is a criminal or suspected. criminal? What if all of the people at a gathering (say, a boat trip) become watched 24 hours?
What if your partner (wife/jealous girlfriend) pays someone to track you and see who you meet?
What if your male ex partner tracks you because he is waiting until you are vulnerable and he can attack?
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
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Do you watch Black Mirror? The Social score episode is pretty alarming - even more so because China is implementing it. Such as, you jay walk and your score goes down, etc.violet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:28 amLet me add a couple of scenarios that might register with some of you.
How about if facial recognition gets used to track who journalists are meeting with to get their stories?
How about if facial recognition is used to track groups of people gathering together, simply because one of the people among you (perhaps unknown to you) is a criminal or suspected. criminal? What if all of the people at a gathering (say, a boat trip) become watched 24 hours?
What if your partner (wife/jealous girlfriend) pays someone to track you and see who you meet?
What if your male ex partner tracks you because he is waiting until you are vulnerable and he can attack?
Liberal democracies should work to protect against a degree of this, but China, Singapore, won't.
But the question about individuals tracking people through facial recognition - well I can't see that happening as they won't have access to any large network of cameras.
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^ Regarding individuals not having access - it was not that long ago that the general public did not have access to drones etc
Also, how about Countries, like Cambodia, where the vast majority of Public Officials are so poorly paid that they supplement their salary with cash on a regular basis, or seek to impress people with their 'power' ?
Also, how about Countries, like Cambodia, where the vast majority of Public Officials are so poorly paid that they supplement their salary with cash on a regular basis, or seek to impress people with their 'power' ?
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of course they have happened since the beginning of time, the point is it is now going to be easier, cheaper and more far reaching.slavedog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:52 amAll of these things have been happening for centuries, since the beginning of human civilisation even. They are the product of HUMAN NATURE. The only thing that has changed is the method.violet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:28 amLet me add a couple of scenarios that might register with some of you.
How about if facial recognition gets used to track who journalists are meeting with to get their stories?
How about if facial recognition is used to track groups of people gathering together, simply because one of the people among you (perhaps unknown to you) is a criminal or suspected. criminal? What if all of the people at a gathering (say, a boat trip) become watched 24 hours?
What if your partner (wife/jealous girlfriend) pays someone to track you and see who you meet?
What if your male ex partner tracks you because he is waiting until you are vulnerable and he can attack?
I do understand mindfulness (many have tried to get me to do it - I gave it a go for a short time). I know my post is uncomfortable for some people to read - that naked sharing of inner mental upset. People find that really confronting. People could do with wondering why that is so. I don't like that I experience at times when feeling unable to impact on a situation - but you know what? that's a feeling experienced globally by many for all sorts of reasons. Those London riots a few years ago, Hong Kong protesters, etc. Those who undertake escapist activities (drugs and alcohol for example) are doing so in order to avoid these types of feelings and thoughts. I face them. I raise them. I speak about them. If we as humans can experience them, then why do we deny that they happen and actively try to avoid them?
So, I have a mind that cares to reflect on things like this. Many reading do not. That's fine. But to then be labelled mentally unstable because of it is rude and inaccurate. Have I been emotionally affected by things? Yes, but I am not mentally unstable and therefore spouting comments.
Anyway. It's a sunny day. Thanks for continuing to post in a respectful way, slavedog.
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yep and yep. i've posted about the china situation before and written about it elsewhere.Miguelito wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:03 amDo you watch Black Mirror? The Social score episode is pretty alarming - even more so because China is implementing it. Such as, you jay walk and your score goes down, etc.violet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:28 amLet me add a couple of scenarios that might register with some of you.
How about if facial recognition gets used to track who journalists are meeting with to get their stories?
How about if facial recognition is used to track groups of people gathering together, simply because one of the people among you (perhaps unknown to you) is a criminal or suspected. criminal? What if all of the people at a gathering (say, a boat trip) become watched 24 hours?
What if your partner (wife/jealous girlfriend) pays someone to track you and see who you meet?
What if your male ex partner tracks you because he is waiting until you are vulnerable and he can attack?
Liberal democracies should work to protect against a degree of this, but China, Singapore, won't.
But the question about individuals tracking people through facial recognition - well I can't see that happening as they won't have access to any large network of cameras.
your last sentence is shortsighted (with respect)
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Unless one is wanted, has outstanding warrants or is of some interest to Big Brother,. I don't think any of you honest upstanding decent citizens have anything to worry about. Infact, it could benefit you when the jao snached ya phone and is caught via CCTV cameras getting beaten to near death.
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At least a dozen U.S. National Security Agency employees have been caught using secret government surveillance tools to spy on the emails or phone calls of their current or former spouses and lovers in the past decade https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... 4G20130927
The noise generated by this much information, by seeing a massive populace as potential criminals, proved deafening for investigators searching for a single suspect. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mad ... less-safe/
Yes, instinctively I am against all this stuff. But when I think about it the benefits outweigh the disadvantages for average law-abiding people. I look forward to transiting an airport without having to queue up and go through all that immigration / security bollocks. And hopefully will not have to fill out so many forms when dealing with authorities.Jep wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:43 amUnless one is wanted, has outstanding warrants or is of some interest to Big Brother,. I don't think any of you honest upstanding decent citizens have anything to worry about. Infact, it could benefit you when the jao snached ya phone and is caught via CCTV cameras getting beaten to near death.
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
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