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Media bias: If the subject country were China...
If the country being talked about were China, we'd see the words Social Credit system mentioned. The subject is Australia though, so those words and the concept are omitted.
Many readers will already know this is how Australia is. It will be the same in the UK.
Make no mistake about the propaganda machines.
Many readers will already know this is how Australia is. It will be the same in the UK.
Make no mistake about the propaganda machines.
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I don't understand why a hedge fund would buy data about location. In fact, I don't understand any of this tracking and selling of data and how it is of use to companies but then I am a moron when it comes to technology and the internet.
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"By using the phone’s GPS to send API calls to the Operating System (for example, Android), apps can determine where we are, how long we are there for, who we are with, and lots more information about our preferences and habits. They can then sell this geolocation data on to interested customers, including investment firms and digital marketers." source: https://www.datadriveninvestor.com/2018 ... dge-funds/
That information, especially in combination with other information (sales for example) enables them to forecast/predict and make earlier decisions so they can make more money. It helps them understand which decisions are riskier than others. It helps them make better decisions about when to buy and when to sell. Location data is the cherry on top of the ice cream.
from the same link above:
"But it’s not straightforward for hedge funds when it comes to acquiring geolocation data. Going forward, there are likely to be plenty of roadblocks for them to navigate to ensure that ethical use of the data is consistently (and credibly) maintained. After all, while many of us won’t mind our data being used for research, many of us also don’t necessarily want it being used by hedge funds to make a profit, or for some other unknown purposes."
take comments about data being anonymous with a pinch of salt - data can be 'triangulated' (I'm sure there is a better term). As data is not really anonymous (especially across the likes of Facebook and Google and all their associated companies, apps, etc), what happens is judgements get made based on your data. And sometimes those judgements are wrong. Those judgements then affect (due to algorithms) what information you are targeted with online and the frequency / volume of that information - so, for example, you get your beliefs reinforced. It leads to segregation. It leads to separation. It is divisive.
this is easy reading: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ng/586009/
Personally, I don't like them making money from my data without me reaping rewards. It's worth a lot to them. They can bloody well pay me for it.
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buying and selling individuals' personal data happens for other reasons too - identify theft, blackmail/extortion, ransom, etc.
also, in terms of location. It's not big bucks but an interested individual (ex/current partner for example) can access that location data too if they know what they are doing (and it's easy for those that way inclined to get the information of how) and stalk and threaten others.
also, in terms of location. It's not big bucks but an interested individual (ex/current partner for example) can access that location data too if they know what they are doing (and it's easy for those that way inclined to get the information of how) and stalk and threaten others.
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A classic example of mined data sold to other companies and eventually bought by an interested party, is the sound bite 'build the wall'.
Up the workers!
There’s been this anti Chinese rhetoric since at least the 70s (“Chinky shit”, which we all wanted and bought) and it’s just grown. For most expats (not so much the backpackers) it’s engrained in their psyche and has just be exacerbated because of SIhanoukville.
“Clean data” has always been big business - address, phone numbers, job description, kids, car type, salary etc.
I worked for a company who’s sole job was to call people up to confirm their details. Labour intensive but the money they made was crazy.
Nowadays they collect more details and it’s more precise.
It’s all money.
(Incidentally, the UKs cities have more CCTV than many other countries, including China - London and weirdly Bristol as examples.)
“Clean data” has always been big business - address, phone numbers, job description, kids, car type, salary etc.
I worked for a company who’s sole job was to call people up to confirm their details. Labour intensive but the money they made was crazy.
Nowadays they collect more details and it’s more precise.
It’s all money.
(Incidentally, the UKs cities have more CCTV than many other countries, including China - London and weirdly Bristol as examples.)
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It's not just anti China. It's 'them' vs 'us' and 'them' are always the bad guys who are terrorists and introducing social credit systems etc., while 'us' are always the good guys defending and protecting. 'We' expect 'them' to not do what we do while we do what they do.
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CCTV stats (2019)
https://www.afr.com/technology/shocking ... 816-p52hrj
Chongqing in central China was the most surveilled city 168 cameras per 1000 people.
Sydney had about 12 cameras per 1000 citizens.
...putting those stats in the what bullshit pile: The only other Australian city ranked was Melbourne. However, the Victorian capital was said only to have 93 CCTV cameras.
I will find some London stats (for what it's worth)... London in sixth place but it doesn't give the /1000 figure.
https://www.afr.com/technology/shocking ... 816-p52hrj
Chongqing in central China was the most surveilled city 168 cameras per 1000 people.
Sydney had about 12 cameras per 1000 citizens.
...putting those stats in the what bullshit pile: The only other Australian city ranked was Melbourne. However, the Victorian capital was said only to have 93 CCTV cameras.
I will find some London stats (for what it's worth)... London in sixth place but it doesn't give the /1000 figure.
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^ here we go:
Outside of China, the top most-surveilled cities in the world are:
London - 68.40 cameras per 1,000 people
Atlanta - 15.56 cameras per 1,000 people
Singapore - 15.25 cameras per 1,000 people
Abu Dhabi - 13.77 cameras per 1,000 people
Chicago - 13.06 cameras per 1,000 people
Sydney - 12.35 cameras per 1,000 people
Baghdad - 12.30 cameras per 1,000 people
Dubai - 12.14 cameras per 1,000 people
Moscow - 11.70 cameras per 1,000 people
Berlin - 11.18 cameras per 1,000 people
New Delhi - 9.62 cameras per 1,000 people
all off topic but so what?
source: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/19/09/22 ... -the-world
Outside of China, the top most-surveilled cities in the world are:
London - 68.40 cameras per 1,000 people
Atlanta - 15.56 cameras per 1,000 people
Singapore - 15.25 cameras per 1,000 people
Abu Dhabi - 13.77 cameras per 1,000 people
Chicago - 13.06 cameras per 1,000 people
Sydney - 12.35 cameras per 1,000 people
Baghdad - 12.30 cameras per 1,000 people
Dubai - 12.14 cameras per 1,000 people
Moscow - 11.70 cameras per 1,000 people
Berlin - 11.18 cameras per 1,000 people
New Delhi - 9.62 cameras per 1,000 people
all off topic but so what?
source: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/19/09/22 ... -the-world
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Haha. I bet all those cameras in London run off HUAWEI servers.
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^ hahaha
Yes, all very well caring about cctv cameras while neglecting the reality of all that huawei, Samsung, etc etc 'stuff' out there - cameras and microphones and key strokes and location on top of the contacts, emails, etc etc
what have I forgotten?
Yes, all very well caring about cctv cameras while neglecting the reality of all that huawei, Samsung, etc etc 'stuff' out there - cameras and microphones and key strokes and location on top of the contacts, emails, etc etc
what have I forgotten?
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is your comment related to the topic of the thread or are you just taking the opportunity to poke because I posted? I don't care either way. I'm just curious.
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