Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

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Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby 1Ray1 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:09 pm

I think one can say that in general electronics, motorbikes etc are more expensive in Cambodia than neighbour countries like Thailand, right?

Makes sense, 'cause it's produced there, not here.

I noticed, though, that AIRCONS seem to be an obvious exception, with 9000 Btu Aircons starting under 300,- US$.

Did you guys also notice, and wonder why that is so? Or am I just mistaken somehow?

If I'm right, what's the reason for aircons being so unusually cheap?
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby Nasty Canasta » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:02 pm

It's an evil plot by the Illuminati to mess with Cambodia's power supplies.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby cambod » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:12 pm

Nasty Canasta wrote:It's an evil plot by the Illuminati to mess with Cambodia's power supplies.


It's working.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby vladimir » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:34 pm

Nasty Canasta wrote:It's an evil plot by the Illuminati to mess with Cambodia's power supplies.


Who needs a plot when the Ignorati are running things?
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby long in the tooth » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:37 pm

vladimir wrote:
Nasty Canasta wrote:It's an evil plot by the Illuminati to mess with Cambodia's power supplies.


Who needs a plot when the Ignorati are running things?


that's 1.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby mrfusion » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:13 am

Not sure if the aircon here is same as Thailand, The aircon here is different to say Australia, those here has no heating function.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby OrangeDragon » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:09 am

of note, the cheap aircon will nail you in the long run. the more expensive inverter units use a lot less power.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby marksman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:53 am

mrfusion wrote:Not sure if the aircon here is same as Thailand, The aircon here is different to say Australia, those here has no heating function.


Beg to differ , my 12,000 BTU split unit has built in dehumidifier and heater , starts rapid on 12v dc through inverter , my unit is Akira and base price was $269.00 . An aircon is an aircon , only difference is quality by manufacturer etc and at times the installer .
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby toady » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:18 am

An aircon is an aircon

It really isn't, and I'm sure you'll learn that everything Akira make is shit before too long.
For example most aircons use AC induction motors, some have variable-frequency drives ("inverters"), and Daikin use DC reluctance motors, quite different, in terms of efficiency and reliability.
I'm interested in your setup though, what size inverter do you use, what batteries, do you charge with solar, how long do you run it and so on?
In theory with an "inverter" aircon you could power it directly from DC but I've only seen than on specialized solar-power units.
I'm surprised chilled-water aircon is not more popular, can you even buy it here?
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby mrfusion » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:06 pm

marksman wrote:
mrfusion wrote:Not sure if the aircon here is same as Thailand, The aircon here is different to say Australia, those here has no heating function.


Beg to differ , my 12,000 BTU split unit has built in dehumidifier and heater , starts rapid on 12v dc through inverter , my unit is Akira and base price was $269.00 . An aircon is an aircon , only difference is quality by manufacturer etc and at times the installer .


This is interesting, Non of the remote control I see has a option to heat.
I don't have Akira units, every Akira appliance I own are piece of shit.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby krisduncs » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:44 pm

i just payed 400 for a panasonic inverter. its super cool in a few mins. and the electrician,who is shit hot,swears it will use half the power of the 270dollar one i was looking at. will see when i get next months bill.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby vladimir » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:51 pm

mrfusion wrote:I don't have Akira units, every Akira appliance I own are piece of shit.


I have to agree. Only marginally better than the Chinese garbage.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby cambod » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:05 pm

krisduncs wrote:i just payed 400 for a panasonic inverter. its super cool in a few mins. and the electrician,who is shit hot,swears it will use half the power of the 270dollar one i was looking at. will see when i get next months bill.


I bet he's right.

I got an A/C that fits your description and I run it A LOT! At least 13 hours a day, every day.

Only raised my bill an extra $1 a day compared to when I used a fan instead.

I now pay 1300 per kilowatt.

So it seems like it costs about 300 riel, or $0.08 to run per hour.


The A/C at my old apartment would cost over $0.30 per hour to run paying the same rate, and you could see the meter FLYING! !
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby Nasty Canasta » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:18 pm

vladimir wrote:
mrfusion wrote:I don't have Akira units, every Akira appliance I own are piece of shit.


I have to agree. Only marginally better than the Chinese garbage.


Both fit for landfill only.
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Re: Expensive Electronics - but surprisingly cheap Aircons?

Postby OrangeDragon » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:25 pm

so far my toaster oven from them has functioned ok... but it's obviously cheap and i have low expectations for longevity. that said, it's a pretty simple device... nothing like an AC unit.
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