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 Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| keeping_it_riel wrote: | | If Herr Von Pedoschnitzelburger has been caught as part of an internet swoop then I wouldn't be at all suprised if the Germam Police were co-ordinating this together with the locals. |
| Quote: | | They spent time gathering evidence that would hold up in a court of law (not necessarily a Khmer one) and making sure that they'd got the correct people, rather than stupidly blunder in like in the Betteridge case. |
| Quote: | | This sounds very unkhmer and rather professional to me, making me think that another police force is involved- probably the Germans. |
| Quote: | | At a guess, they probably had long standing contacts with Svay Pak mamasans and that's how they were able to procure the girls. |
Take note, GGC. Take note. This is not your pedo's paradise anymore. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Can anyone find some pictures of these German guys? |
Check the 440 front page.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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a big story for the media ...
but what is with all those rapists and pedo's from Japan and China? nobody seems to care nobody arrested, I just wonder why you do not hear something of the most perverted sexmaniacs , the asian men???
i dont want to excuse any pedo's. and as far as I know, they are some places closed to Vietnam, where the traffic chinese girls into Cambodia, rape them end sell them ... everything under the asian patronarche. But nobody would touch the chinese system ... and their "human rights" ... it is too political ...
NGO's why don't you investigate in China, there you could find thousands of underaged girls forced into child-prostitution.
Viva la investigation! |
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I'll stick up for World Vision here. They've realised that the Western Pedo thing is mostly dealt with and will now be targetting their big guns at the Japanese, Chinese and other Asian men who flock to Cambodia for underage sex.
Hence, you won't see WV advertising here anymore or at the Bayon or at the Pocket guide. They will be focusing their resources on deterring non Khmer Asian abusers of children here in Cambodia. Or so our business manager was told at a breakfast meeting a few weeks ago. Their logic appears sound.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Here's one of Thomas the pedo, smiling at the police. I'm sure I've seen him around.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not exactly the land of smiles behind him, is it? |
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| SwEetDReAm wrote: | | Wow...such a long surnname! Must be rreally hard to try & pronnounce that!!! |
What about This name, SweetDream, Detlef von Kinderfickerlandwirdjetztseinlebeningefaengnisverbringenweilerdreckistundhefentlichimgefaengnisselbstvergewaltigwerdenwird?
| SwEetDReAm wrote: | As sick as it sound, this old man can't be blamed. For this to happen, the country simply allows it to arise. If there are strict laws that has to be abide & follow through, these horrid acts won't be happening. The governments itself should give the death penalty...which is a BIG warning for visitors to commit such crimes. This will guarantee a reduce...
Singapore simply ruled out the best laws. |
No, this man can be blamed and hopefully will, if he is guilty. Just because a law isn't in place somewhere (and they are in place in Cambodia) doesn't mean it should be done. If it was legal to kill people in Australia, and someone commited a murder, would that person be guilty of the murder or would the Aussie gov't be to blame?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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[quote="antifa7"] | SwEetDReAm wrote: |
| SwEetDReAm wrote: | As sick as it sound, this old man can't be blamed. For this to happen, the country simply allows it to arise. If there are strict laws that has to be abide & follow through, these horrid acts won't be happening. The governments itself should give the death penalty...which is a BIG warning for visitors to commit such crimes. This will guarantee a reduce...
Singapore simply ruled out the best laws. |
No, this man can be blamed and hopefully will, if he is guilty. Just because a law isn't in place somewhere (and they are in place in Cambodia) doesn't mean it should be done. If it was legal to kill people in Australia, and someone commited a murder, would that person be guilty of the murder or would the Aussie gov't be to blame? |
I agree. This man (these two men?) can and should be blamed.
However, part of SwEetDReAm's logic is sound, too.
Why is Cambodia a sex haven for pedophiles while Singapore (or Australia) is not? If the age of consent was not 15 but 18(say), many more would be classified as pedophiles.
I agree, though, that the focus has been on Westerners (in this case, who make videos for Internet commercialization).
And what about the Asians (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese) who come to Cambodia for teenage "virgins'? |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| Admin wrote: | | It's not exactly the land of smiles behind him, is it? |
The three Vietnamese nationals arrested at the same time were not smiling at the time of their arrest or in court.
Maybe they have never lived in Thailand.
The German must have.
So, he is the 42-year old English teacher cum movie star who was starring for Germany's own Cecil B. De Mille now with a crutch?
I wonder whether he thought of starring with some of his "peachy" students.
Come on, guys, please tell us where he taught.
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| antifa7 wrote: | | SwEetDReAm wrote: | | Wow...such a long surnname! Must be rreally hard to try & pronnounce that!!! |
What about This name, SweetDream, Detlef von Kinderfickerlandwirdjetztseinlebeningefaengnisverbringenweilerdreckistundhefentlichimgefaengnisselbstvergewaltigwerdenwird? |
Claire,den Moment habe ich Sie getroffen, ehrlich,
Ich habe gefühlt als wenn etwas irgendwo
War zu mir geschehen, den ich nicht sehen könnte.
Und dann, den Moment habe ich Sie wieder getroffen.
Ich habe in meinem Herzen gewusst, das wir Freunde waren.
Es musste so sein, könnte es Nr. nicht sein.
Aber versucht ebenso hart als ich könnte machen, weiß ich warum nicht.
Sie erhalten zu mir in gewisser Hinsicht ich kann nicht beschreiben.
Formuliert Mittel damit wenig, wenn Sie und Lächeln nachschlagen.
Ich sorge mich nicht, welche Leute sagen, zu mir sind Sie mehr als ein Kind.
Oh Claire, Claire.
Claire, wenn je einen Moment, damit selten’
für alle gefangen genommen wurde, zu vergleichen,
Jener Moment ist Sie, in allen, dass Sie machen.
Aber warum trotz unseres Altersunterschieds weine ich?
Jedes Mal verlasse ich Sie den ich fühle ich könnte sterben.
Nichts bedeutet mehr zu mir als zu hören, dass Sie sagen,
„Ich werde Sie heiraten. Werden Sie mich heiraten?
Ach jubelt zu!“
Oh Claire, Claire….
Claire, Ich habe Sie vor erzählt „Macht Sie herausfordern Nicht!“
„Werden Sie zurück in Bett!“.
„Können Sie nicht Sie sehen, dass es spät ist?“.
„Nein Sie können kein Getränk haben“.
„Ach allright dann, aber wartet nur nur eine Minute“.
Während ich, in einer Bemühung, zu babysitten, holt auf meinem Atem ein,
was es davon verlassen ist
Sie können Mord an dieser Stunde des Tags sein.
Aber morgens wird die Sonne meine Lebenszeit weg sehen
Oh Claire. Claire ...
Oh Claire.
| Quote: | No, this man can be blamed and hopefully will, if he is guilty. Just because a law isn't in place somewhere (and they are in place in Cambodia) doesn't mean it should be done. If it was legal to kill people in Australia, and someone commited a murder, would that person be guilty of the murder or
would the Aussie gov't be to blame? |
Depends, if it was the Tasmanian Aborigines....
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| Heinrich manoeuvre wrote: |
Depends, if it was the Tasmanian Aborigines.... |
Some people like football...some like shooting foxes...and some like shooting bungas in Tassie.
Each to their own. It wasn't against the law at the time. |
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| Quote: | | Why is Cambodia a sex haven for pedophiles while Singapore (or Australia) is not? |
Cambodia is not a haven for pedophiles, they have been catching them for years. The fact that they have been going for a more pro-active approach and catching many, probably leads one to believe that there are more than there are in other countries. I'm sure Singapore, Australia, USA, Belgium etc, have plenty of them, but it just doesn't get reported the same way. When they catch someone here, they don't go "Another American Pedophile Caught!", they sart on the old "Haven" line.
| Quote: | If the age of consent was not 15 but 18(say), many more would be classified as pedophiles.
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Yeah, well if you looked at the reports, many of the girls mentioned are 15,16,17. The age of consent here is only 15 for situations outside of prostitution, otherwise I believe it is 18.
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| hanky wrote: | | I'm sure Singapore, Australia, USA, Belgium etc, have plenty of them, but it just doesn't get reported the same way. |
UNIFEM has been sticking up "hard-hitting" posters to encourage Singaporean pedos to not rape child prostitutes in the nearby Indonesian island of Batam:
| Quote: | Curbing Batam Sex: Stop, she's too young
The Straits Times
15 June 2004
A GROUP of activists has declared war on the Batam sex trade and one of the first salvos it's firing next month will be to ask men who frequent young prostitutes: How would you feel if someone did this to your daughter?
The Singapore chapter of the United Nations Development Fund for Women (Unifem) feels it is not enough to promote safe sex, which it will do, by placing condoms in hotels. It also wants to make men think about their role in fuelling the flesh trade.
From July, it will put up 'hard-hitting' posters at places like ferry terminals serving the Riau island, to ask such thought-provoking questions, as well as debunk common myths among those seeking illicit sex.
Said Ms Saleemah Ismail, manager of Unifem Singapore's End Trafficking Of Women And Children For Sexual Exploitation project: 'Some men think they are doing a good deed by paying for sex in Batam, that the girls will starve in their villages.
'Others think younger girls are cleaner and thus they will be safer from Aids if they have sex with them.'
Neither is true, she said.
Most of the fee goes to the prostitute's pimp or 'mummy', and to pay for accommodation, food and laundry. The girl will get, at most, 10 to 15 per cent.
And a young sex worker can 'easily' have slept with a few hundred men by the time she's 15, making her no safer than the others, said Ms Saleemah.
Unifem's appeal to conscience and good sense is an attempt to curb the demand side of an equation which has an estimated 600 Singaporean men going to Batam every Saturday for sex.
Its main concern is the trafficking of minors for prostitution.
Up to 40 per cent of the estimated 19,000 sex workers in Batam are under 18, said Ms Saleemah. Some are as young as 12.
Many are tricked into leaving rural villages with job offers, but arrive to find themselves sold to brothels.
Unifem began working with a Batam non-governmental organisation, Partnership for Health and Humanitarian Foundation (YMKK), last year. It supports YMKK's outreach activities and the counselling and rehabilitation of prostitutes.
Interviews with men at the World Trade Centre Ferry Terminal who admitted going to Batam for sex found that most preferred their prostitutes young.
Said a 52-year-old factory worker who declined to be named: 'It's obvious. Every man wants young girls. Better still if they are virgins.'
But what if the girls are not there by choice?
Said Mr Cher Yong Ngiap, 58, a retired manager who says he has friends who frequent Batam prostitutes: 'Most of my friends just want to have fun and they only think about themselves.
'They don't even care about their wives. Why would they bother whether the girls are tricked into the trade?'
Knowing this, Unifem Singapore is also working to promote the use of condoms.
Initially, three hotels agreed to have one placed in every room but two have pulled out for undisclosed reasons, said Ms Saleemah. It could be because of a police raid on brothels last week might, she added.
The remaining hotel declined to be interviewed but its rooms will all have a condom wrapped in an enticing packet showing a girl saying, 'Don't forget me.'
Inside, the condom will come with a line that goes: 'Have you asked how old she is?' |
P.S. UNIFEM has opened a campaign to spread these posters:
| Quote: | ADOPT-A-POSTER
It's hard to know what to do to begin to prevent this violence and sexual exploitation, but the National Committee for UNIFEM (United Nations Development Fund For Women), Singapore is trying to tackle the problem. In Singapore, UNIFEM started a project with 47 students (17-18 year olds) from six junior colleges. After attending a one-day workshop, the students did further research and along with their mentors from the media industry came up with talented and creative work to educate the public on: STOP CHILD PROSTITUTION.
They need help to spread the message. They are hoping to raise money to place the posters/postcards at strategic locations all over Singapore to educate men (including sex tourists) that are involved in child prostitution in places as close as Batam. They also aim to get the public who know people who engage in child prostitution to make a report, and to raise awareness among families and communities about these children who are mostly from developing countries around the region.
If you would like to be a part of stopping child prostitution, please click here for more information on the posters/postcards that you could "adopt"... |
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...and now back to our live broadcast... Karl and Ulrich are determined to win gold with a bipartisan approach to balcony free-fall in the Paedathalon section of this year's event...
OOOOooh Aaaahhh...what a fall from grace and it looks like its going to be a perfect landing onto the back of the tuk tuk below....
Ohhh what a disappointment...they've missed the mark....the crowd below is incredulous.. What a mess...still, they did say if wurst comes wurst..
(special thanx 2 Nohgoot graphics)
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