I have licenses in Singapore and the US. Can I legally drive in Cambodia? My Khmer wife and I live in Singapore but spend about two months of the year in Phnom Penh. We recently bought a place about 15 minutes outside of PP. I don't expect to see many tuk tuks out there, so I'd like to buy a car to get around while there. I've heard international licenses aren't recognized and only residents can get a Cambodian license. And then there's insurance.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Somewhere like Lucky Lucky https://plus.google.com/109570021757713 ... l=kh&hl=en should be able to convert your US licence for around $35. Big moto licence needs big moto licence from your country. Car and <125 scooter just needs a car licence.
A 6 month visa is need afaik, but I've known 3 month visa holders to get them too.
Forte and Infinity do fire & theft insurance. See http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... 12&t=26513
A 6 month visa is need afaik, but I've known 3 month visa holders to get them too.
Forte and Infinity do fire & theft insurance. See http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... 12&t=26513
Thanks, that's very helpful. So I have to surrender my US license? I spend a lot of time there too and it's pretty useful. People in the US were confused by my Singapore license, which is why I got one there in the first place.
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you dont need lose ur us license,
i hold a thai, CA an Cambodian license
you only need the Cambodian license if u have an accident an you need is insurance ( something i cant get for my thai car when i drive up)
i hold a thai, CA an Cambodian license
you only need the Cambodian license if u have an accident an you need is insurance ( something i cant get for my thai car when i drive up)
Most travel agents will get your licence for you. You need to take your licence, your passport and two passport sized photos. I have always paid around $35 for the service, but I dont know if its gone up in the last few months. For a car you want a B licence which also covers motos<125cc. The place I go said the dept of transport needed to see your actual passport and visa, so you cant just give them a copy. My passport came back to me next day, but it takes about three weeks to make your Cambodian licence which is plastic. You get issued with a temporary paper document which covers you while you wait, after which you get your new licence and your old (Singapore or US whichever you gave them) back.Drg wrote:Thanks, that's very helpful. So I have to surrender my US license? I spend a lot of time there too and it's pretty useful. People in the US were confused by my Singapore license, which is why I got one there in the first place.
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The US doesn't have a big moto license, just motorcycle license. Those 125s would be considered a children's toy in the US. For 10-15 year old boys to play with on neighborhood streets on a farm etc. Kind of like a BB gun.
I'll be there for a month next visit, so I can handle it then. Thanks all for your help.
zerotwosixty wrote:The US doesn't have a big moto license, just motorcycle license. Those 125s would be considered a children's toy in the US. For 10-15 year old boys to play with on neighborhood streets on a farm etc. Kind of like a BB gun.
Not so USA licencing laws are a little more comlicated than that:
MOTORCYCLE ONLY (Class-M) (126 cc or more)
Any two- or three-wheel vehicle of more than 125 cubic centimeters (125 cc). A motorcycle license allows the holder 16 years of age or older the privilege of operating a motorcycle. The driver examination will include a vision screening, knowledge test and an on-cycle ability skills test.& (See Identification and Application Requirements for additional details). Note: if the applicant does not already have a valid driver license for a passenger vehicle, the knowledge test for Class D is also required.
MOTORCYCLE-SECONDARY (Class-M)
Motorcycle is added in the secondary position on a valid type or class of license. The addition of a motorcycle license allows the holder 16 years of age or older, the privilege of operating a motorcycle in addition to the other vehicles. The driver examination will include a vision screening, written test and an on-cycle ability skills test. The motorcycle license expires when the primary license expires.
For example, if a driver wishes to be able to operate both a motorcycle and a Class D vehicle, he or she should apply for a Class DM license or XDM license.
MOTOR-DRIVEN CYCLE (SCOOTER) (Class M-Limited) (from 51-125cc)
Any two or three wheel vehicle of no more than 125 cubic centimeters. The license issued to a person 15 years of age will be valid only between the hours of 4:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. and within a seven (7) mile radius of the motor-driven cycle driver’s home. The license issued to a person over 16 will only be restricted as deemed necessary by the Department of Safety.
Minors, 15 years of age, may apply for a restricted license to operate a motorized bicycle that is 50 cc or less, just as they would to operate a motor-driven cycle. The applicant must take a written test, vision test and demonstrate the ability to operate the motorized bicycle. The license issued will be restricted to a motorized bicycle only.
MOTORCYCLE LEARNER PERMIT (Class P-M)
A special permit allowing minors fifteen (15) years of age to operate a motorcycle after completing the requirement established for a motorcycle license with the following restrictions:
1.Must be limited to a motorcycle with a maximum cylinder size of 650 cubic centimeters (650cc).
2.Must not carry passengers.
3.Must be restricted from use on interstate highways or roadways otherwise marked.
4.Operation during daylight hours only.
5.Must be limited to a twenty (20) mile radius of the driver’s home.
6.At the age of sixteen (16), the holder of a motorcycle learner permit (Class P-M) may return to a Driver Service Center and exchange their permit for a motorcycle license to retain the privilege to operate a motorcycle. Note: No tests are required for exchange. After exchange all restriction and size limits are removed.
7.Permits are valid for one (1) year from date of issuance. The learner permit will be valid only between the hours of 4:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. and within a seven (7) mile radius of the motorized bicycle driver’s home.
Not all states are identical for example:
In Illinois, mopeds are defined as two-wheeled low-speed vehicles, which can be either driven like a motorcycle or pedaled like a bicycle.
Mopeds are intended for limited use on public roadways. All riders are required to hold a valid driver’s license and obey all traffic laws, road signs, and signals at all times.
There are different classifications of powered two-wheeled vehicles, so be sure of the type you have, as different regulations may apply.
IL Moped Classification
A moped is actually a sub-class of a motor-driven cycle, restricted to:
Only attaining a speed between 20 mph and 30 mph within 1 mile.
A motor capable of producing 2 brake horsepower or less.
An engine displacement that does not exceed 50cc (cubic centimeters).
A transmission that does not require gear shifting.
All four criteria must be met for you to be able to operate your moped with a regular IL driver’s license.
If your vehicle exceeds any of these criteria, it is considered a motor-driven cycle, and you will need to obtain a separate Class L license (see below).
IL Moped License
You may drive a moped if you possess any valid class of Illinois driver’s license. You must have your license with you at all times while riding.
Class L Motor-Driven Cycle License
If your vehicle exceeds the criteria of a moped but has an engine of less than 150 cc, it is a motor-driven cycle. You will need to apply for a Class L license, the first step of which is a Class L instruction permit.
Earning Your Instruction Permit
There are two types of Class L permits, which depend on your age:
Applicants under 18 years old may apply for a 24-month permit (must have completed a driver’s education program).
Applicants 18 years old or older can apply for a 12-month permit.
To obtain your permit, go to your local Driver Services facility and:
Present proof of identification, residency, and birth date.
Show your Social Security number.
If under 18 years old, show proof of completion for Driver’s Ed.
Take the written knowledge exam.
With a Class L permit, you are allowed to ride only:
During daylight hours.
Under the direct supervision of a licensed motor-driven cycle operator 21 years old or older with at least 1 year of driving experience.
Earning Your Class L License
Depending on your age and whether you earned an instruction permit, you may be exempt from taking certain exams for your Class L license.
If you have gone through the permit process, you are exempt from retaking the written exam.
Drivers under 18 years old will be required to pass an on-cycle driving test.
Drivers over 18 years old may be exempt from the on-cycle driving test if they show completion of a motorcycle training course.
If you did not complete a motorcycle training course or earn an instruction permit, you will be required to take both the written and the on-cycle exams.
Make an appointment at your nearest Driver Services facility and:
Bring your instruction permit (if applicable).
Submit proof of identification, birth date, residency, and Social Security number.
Show your Motorcycle Rider Course Student Completion Card (if applicable).
Pass the written and on-cycle exams (if applicable).
Pay the $10 Class L license fee.
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Those may be the law somewhere in the US, the specifics vary from state to state. That doesn't stop them being regarded as toys. In our neighborhood we had a shared mini-bike. About 8hp, most of your 125s are about 9-12hp. And yeah we had to hide from the cops, so what. If you live out in the country lots of kids have those little dirtbikes, legal or not. I have a class M and C license. I wasn't aware that there was another class. In Texas, if you have class M you can ride any bike you want. Like I said it varies from state to state. Never heard of a class D,L or IL, must be one those northern states While they have mopeds and scooters, nobody is going to buy their kid something that gay. It would be mini-bikes, or dirtbikes.
Those bikes aren't street legal anyway. They don't have lights. You'll have a hard time finding a dualsport smaller than 650cc these days.
Found it: Illinois
Those bikes aren't street legal anyway. They don't have lights. You'll have a hard time finding a dualsport smaller than 650cc these days.
Found it: Illinois
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I doubt the OP has a class M permit from the states anyway. Class C will get you car and small MC permit for Cambo.
Zerotozerotwosixty wrote:
> I doubt the OP has a class M permit from the states anyway. Class C will get you
> car and small MC permit for Cambo.
You're right, I don't drive a moto. We have two year old. I'm not about to become one of those Asian families with the baby crammed between Mom and Dad on a moto. But once again, I really appreciate all the info.
> I doubt the OP has a class M permit from the states anyway. Class C will get you
> car and small MC permit for Cambo.
You're right, I don't drive a moto. We have two year old. I'm not about to become one of those Asian families with the baby crammed between Mom and Dad on a moto. But once again, I really appreciate all the info.
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