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Temporary admission for a car

Postby laffarguee » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:33 am

Hi from France !

We are driving with our van from France to Cambodia. It's a french vehicle. We are in Russia now.
Does someone know how to proceed for the temporary admission of our van ? Perhaps someone could help us ! :help:

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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby Phuket2006 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:53 am

legally u need apply 1-2 months in advance and get the legal temp admission doc.
easiest,just cross the border at Osmach from Thailand

BUT
hope u realize its not easy anymore to cross into thailand with a vehicle.

u'll need enter from china to Laos to Cambodia
U should be asking how to get into China as thats going to be the tough and expensive one..advance permission, guide, lead vehicle
Good luck
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby Miguelito » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:37 am

Where will you go after? Drive back to France?
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby Spigzy » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:03 am

Miguelito wrote:Where will you go after? Drive back to France?


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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby laffarguee » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:53 pm

I will arrive from China and Laos in more than 2 months. After go back in France thought China > Kirgiztan and iran
This is incredible. They ask for something but you don't know where you can obtain it.
Noboby have some information about that ?
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby black69wolf69 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:06 pm

Phuket2006 wrote:legally u need apply 1-2 months in advance and get the legal temp admission doc.
easiest,just cross the border at Osmach from Thailand

BUT
hope u realize its not easy anymore to cross into thailand with a vehicle.

u'll need enter from china to Laos to Cambodia
U should be asking how to get into China as thats going to be the tough and expensive one..advance permission, guide, lead vehicle
Good luck


The OP needs to consider whether he wants to enter Cambodia through Thailand, in which case he will need to secure permission 15-30 business days in advance through a Thai travel agency and will require a guide and lead vehicle to accompany him (similar rules to China). The O'Smach entry option into Cambodia may work, but probably he'll be told that he must leave Cambodia through that same crossing necessitating another entry into Thailand with the same advance permission requirements (best to apply for all the entries to Thailand at the same time to avoid delays).

I was recently at the Koh Kong crossing. Saw one Malaysian vehicle parked in no mans land that was not allowed to enter Cambodia, but others (also Malaysian) had their paperwork held by customs just like Thai registrations to ensure they exit at the same border. I presume that the Malaysian vehicle refused entry didn't bring along it's registration or something to that effect.

For direct entry into Cambodia through Laos, advance notice is required. Most of the time, Cambodian customs at the Lao-Cambodian border refuses foreign vehicles entry if they just show up, so I would advise against that. Even Lao vehicles are usually told they can only travel as far as Stung Treng and must return the same way they came.

As you say, best option is to apply for official permission through the Cambodian Ministry of Transport and seek advice/permission through a local travel agency with experience guiding foreign tourists traveling in their own vehicle.

Leaving Cambodia will not be easy otherwise because Vietnam also requires advance notice/a guide and lead vehicle while Laos does not. Overall this is going to be a complicated trip with lots of advance planning necessary.
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby Phuket2006 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:50 pm

true, about thailand

REQUEST PERMISSION 10 DAYS BEFORE ENTERING THAILAND

Drivers are required to make requests to drive in Thailand through Thai tourism operators at least 10 days prior to their their trips and have their vehicles checked by authorities.

Transport officials overseeing provinces bordering their countries will consider whether to grant them permission cards.

The 500-baht permission card must be displayed inside the vehicle where they can easily be spotted by Thai officials.

Vehicles will be allowed to travel only in those provinces through which they enter and they will be allowed on Thai roads for 30 days each trip. The total permitted period cannot exceed 60 days in one year.

Travel will only be permitted in the border province entered, except if a guide accompanies the vehicle.


another reason to hate the Chinese as their the ones that forced Thailand to place this in effect.
Whatever entry he uses its not going to be easy.

spot on!!! :thumbsup:
As you say, best option is to apply for official permission through the Cambodian Ministry of Transport and seek advice/permission through a local travel agency with experience guiding foreign tourists traveling in their own vehicle.


the old days of overland travels are a thing of the past... :(
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby Miguelito » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:30 am

Phuket2006 wrote:true, about thailand

REQUEST PERMISSION 10 DAYS BEFORE ENTERING THAILAND

Drivers are required to make requests to drive in Thailand through Thai tourism operators at least 10 days prior to their their trips and have their vehicles checked by authorities.

Transport officials overseeing provinces bordering their countries will consider whether to grant them permission cards.

The 500-baht permission card must be displayed inside the vehicle where they can easily be spotted by Thai officials.

Vehicles will be allowed to travel only in those provinces through which they enter and they will be allowed on Thai roads for 30 days each trip. The total permitted period cannot exceed 60 days in one year.

Travel will only be permitted in the border province entered, except if a guide accompanies the vehicle.


another reason to hate the Chinese as their the ones that forced Thailand to place this in effect.
Whatever entry he uses its not going to be easy.

spot on!!! :thumbsup:
As you say, best option is to apply for official permission through the Cambodian Ministry of Transport and seek advice/permission through a local travel agency with experience guiding foreign tourists traveling in their own vehicle.


the old days of overland travels are a thing of the past... :(


Does anyone have recent experience clearing a car to enter Thailand from Cambodia and returning?

There seems to be two things that need to be done:

1) Receive clearance / authority from Cambodia Customs
2) Receive approval from Thailand

How does one go about this (particularly on the Cambodian side)?
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby black69wolf69 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:11 pm

Are you referring to a Cambodian car? If so, the process is very straightforward, but I think you should consider using only O'Smach or Koh Kong for entry into Thailand as Thai cars going the other way can only easily use these crossings so I can't imagine Thai customs would be lenient enough to allow Cambodian cars to enter wherever they want when Thai cars are being discriminated against. I am going to try the new border crossing at Ban Khao Din - no information as to whether cars are allowed through there but it's a very new crossing.
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby Miguelito » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:09 pm

black69wolf69 wrote:Are you referring to a Cambodian car? If so, the process is very straightforward, but I think you should consider using only O'Smach or Koh Kong for entry into Thailand as Thai cars going the other way can only easily use these crossings so I can't imagine Thai customs would be lenient enough to allow Cambodian cars to enter wherever they want when Thai cars are being discriminated against. I am going to try the new border crossing at Ban Khao Din - no information as to whether cars are allowed through there but it's a very new crossing.


Yea, was thinking of crossing in Koh Kong to Trat with a Cambodian car. What exactly needs to be done beforehand?
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby over the rainbow » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:04 pm

there many cars/bikes entering Thailand without the required advance permission/permits/guides etc.
Than again some are being refused..
its a crapshoot.
Otherwise just show up, bring ur ownership book/papers in YOUR name, exit Cambodia, enter thailand, fill out the required paperwork at customs, get ur 30 day temp import paper, ask where to buy insurance (1000% required) and drive on.
Both the borders near Pailin are VERY easy for entering Thailand.

I'll be driving back to Camboida next month using the osmach border..

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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby black69wolf69 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:54 pm

over the rainbow wrote:there many cars/bikes entering Thailand without the required advance permission/permits/guides etc.
Than again some are being refused..
its a crapshoot.
Otherwise just show up, bring ur ownership book/papers in YOUR name, exit Cambodia, enter thailand, fill out the required paperwork at customs, get ur 30 day temp import paper, ask where to buy insurance (1000% required) and drive on.
Both the borders near Pailin are VERY easy for entering Thailand.

I'll be driving back to Camboida next month using the osmach border..

join this group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024579897597702/


Some have made it across to Thailand without guides but they were very lucky. As it stands the rules are in place and aren't going anywhere. I have barely seen any third country foreign registrations in Thailand since June 2016 and that means the policy is working as it should. After all, it's been published in the Royal Gazette so isn't just some random rule that is conveniently forgotten once the dust settles. Some people may have gotten lucky - I will ask customs when I next enter Cambodia in the next few days from Thailand what they say, just in case I've missed something. For now best to go here for accurate information:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... 0FnVDU5eTg

https://motoasia.bike/thailand-foreign- ... pervision/

Cambodian cars and bikes are a different story. They can enter and unofficially at least drive throughout the country not requiring any special paperwork. Just show up with the registration and you'll get permission to cross. I asked at Ban Laem once and told NO vehicles can cross except vehicles going to the casino. Pong Nam Ron may work but Hat Lek (Koh Kong) and Chong Chom (O'Smach) are best as that's where most vehicles enter. At Pong Nam Ron there may be restrictions on how far you can drive, even if not enforced in practice.
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Re: Temporary admission for a car

Postby over the rainbow » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:14 pm

which border will you use? would like to know if all is as it was for O'smach crossing into Cambodia

The fb group posts more than a few are getting across
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