The InterContinental - An end to an era?

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The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Miguelito » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:32 am

The InterContinental here in Phnom Penh has been in operation for two decades, and has certainly had a large presence in that time. However, have the quality standards gone down, or are they simply going in another direction?

If driving past you will see a new sign, The Great Duke, in place. I have been told that they are ceasing their relationship with the InterCon, to be fully effective by the end of February/early March. It is unclear to me if the InterCon brand is axing the franchise based on poor quality standards that do not fit its brand, or if the owner has decided that he would be better off on his own. Either way, I can already predict that their focus is shifting from Western business travelers to Chinese. I was also told that they are yet another company that have made all of their Western staff redundant.

Anyone else know anything about this big change?
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Youn Hoo Fatt » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:41 am

Anyone else know anything about this big change?

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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby ReasonstobefearfulP3 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:49 am

Did IHG not own the hotel then? Just the branding?
Or is the Great Duke name also an IHG brand name?
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Hanno » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:21 am

ReasonstobefearfulP3 wrote:Did IHG not own the hotel then? Just the branding?
Or is the Great Duke name also an IHG brand name?


Very few, if any, of the large brand hotels are owned by the brands. These are usually just management/franchise contracts with one partner coughing up the building and the other the expertise and sales/HR/administrative infrastructure.
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Miguelito » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:22 am

ReasonstobefearfulP3 wrote:Did IHG not own the hotel then? Just the branding?
Or is the Great Duke name also an IHG brand name?


I believe the owner of the building is the Okhna whose mansion is directly behind it. Great Duke is certainly not an IHG brand name.

Youn Hoo Fatt wrote:doesnt affect me at all, except when i need to know to keep weeelll away


I don't think it will "affect" too many people here, one way or another, but I think it is an interesting enough development.
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby slavedog » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:28 am

Youn Hoo Fatt wrote:
Anyone else know anything about this big change?

nah sorry, i hang out on the streets and gutters and have little knowledge or interest in the stratosphere . doesnt affect me at all, except when i need to know to keep weeelll away


Why do you persist with cluttering up threads with these pointless, meaningless comments? You do realise that If you don't have anything worth contributing, you can just not post on a thread?
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby tombraider » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:41 am

Miguelito wrote:
ReasonstobefearfulP3 wrote:Did IHG not own the hotel then? Just the branding?
Or is the Great Duke name also an IHG brand name?


I believe the owner of the building is the Okhna whose mansion is directly behind it. Great Duke is certainly not an IHG brand name.



Who is that? Hun To (nephew of HE) with his peacocks? He has the big house behind the Intercon (but that wasn't listed as an asset of his in the transparency international report)
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby tombraider » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:44 am

Miguelito wrote: Either way, I can already predict that their focus is shifting from Western business travelers to Chinese?


Interestingly though (talking of shifting to Chinese) they are building a big one in Sihanoukville

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/post-prope ... ille-hotel
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Miguelito » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:59 am

As a follow up, I have now heard that the IHG contract (a management agreement, which as Hanno stated, is very common), was up at the beginning of the year, and the owner decided not to renew it.

Apparently the heads of the departments were supplied by IHG and mostly came from other IHG properties in other countries, and a few are being reassigned to other IHG properties elsewhere (and fwiw they were mostly Filipinos, not westerners, my bad).
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby crazyjohn » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:33 pm

Wasn’t the owner the oknea who shot the tyre of the plane at the airport. He died recently.
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby maven » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:50 pm

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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Lucky Lucan » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:52 pm

crazyjohn wrote:Wasn’t the owner the oknea who shot the tyre of the plane at the airport. He died recently.


Yes, it was owned by Teng Bunma.
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby Youn Hoo Fatt » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:01 pm

slavedog wrote:
Youn Hoo Fatt wrote:
Anyone else know anything about this big change?

nah sorry, i hang out on the streets and gutters and have little knowledge or interest in the stratosphere . doesnt affect me at all, except when i need to know to keep weeelll away


Why do you persist with cluttering up threads with these pointless, meaningless comments? You do realise that If you don't have anything worth contributing, you can just not post on a thread?

sure glad i dont have to keep abreast of the type of meaningless crap on this thread. whatever floats your boat
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby bigphatt » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:12 pm

Could be worse..
You might buy something for $2k but it's only really worth $10. for example
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Re: The InterContinental - An end to an era?

Postby maven » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:02 pm

The Intercon was way overrated, tbh.

Crap location, rooms with non-opening windows, no balconies

They did have the best pool in Phnom Penh, and when Frederik Carlsward was there, one of the best gyms, $20/day for non-members, $12 burgers

Served sharkfin soup, only $168/plate

At one stage the Wine and cheese was $25, now I think it's $55+

Been sidelined by Sofitel and Sokha now, I think
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