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new business project directed at expats, your opinions are welcome

Postby jackrossi » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:45 pm

hello,
recently i aquired a minority stake in a local medical laboratory, good equipment and staff but a bit of of town.
I was thinking of new ways to improve the number of clients by offering blood test/urine analysis directly at home for an affordable price saving the client the time, extra cost and stress to go to a local hospital or clinic.
The idea is simple, we have a number of registered english speaking nurses that, in case you need a check up, feel unwell or would just like to check for some specific conditions will come directly to your home, check your blood pressure and hart rate and take the necessary samples for the analysis you need.
The results will be quickly sent to you back by mail.
This offers both privacy and allows you to forward your results to your favorite doctor abroad if needed or we will recommend a local doctor with an european degree if you want to further investigate the results.
The analysis offered are very numerous and cover most things from HIV to tumor necrosis factor to amoeba infections as well as the classic routine tests.
The prices will be clear and public and they are the same as if you walk in the laboratory yourself with only a 5$ extra fee/tip for the nurse.
No extra fees for foreigners and no hidden fees of course.

As an expat do you think it is makes sense for you to use this kind of service or it makes no sense as you would be fine just paying more by going to a clinic and have them to send the samples to a lab for you?

since most of us here are expatriates it would be very interesting to get some feedback regarding the possible demand for such services or if you have some similar services in mind that could be complementary to it.

thank you for your attention.
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Postby slavedog » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:52 pm

I think it's an excellent idea. Anything that saves me having to go to a clinic and be around ill people is a good thing.

Good luck with it.
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Postby ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 pm

Personally, I don’t think it’s a great idea.

I think most reputable doctors would want to do their own tests rather than accept the results their patient brings along in an envelope. That will mean customers are double charged and the same test is done twice.

Other than people who have ongoing illnesses and are able to manage them themselves using regular test results who would be the target audience?
There is the potential for increasing the prevalence of home self-physicians using google and the local pharmacy.

Wouldn’t it be a better idea to target small clinics and Pharmacies? At least those working there would have ‘some’ education and experience *shudder*
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Postby gavinmac » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:02 pm

I've been tipping nurses for years. It's very common in the USA.
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Postby spitthedog » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:03 pm

jackrossi wrote:The idea is simple, we have a number of registered english speaking nurses that, in case you need a check up, feel unwell or would just like to check for some specific conditions will come directly to your home, check your blood pressure and hart rate and take the necessary samples for the analysis you need.



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Postby slavedog » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:04 pm

ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:Personally, I don’t think it’s a great idea.

I think most reputable doctors would want to do their own tests rather than accept the results their patient brings along in an envelope. That will mean customers are double charged and the same test is done twice.



My physician at a good hospital in Bangkok has occasionally sent me down the road to have tests done. They can of course do the exact same tests at his hospital but for several times the price. The only difference is that the results take a few days rather that an hour, but for not urgent stuff that's no problem. It probably saved me a hundred bucks each time.
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Postby pedros » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:08 pm

Great idea. Where is the lab?
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Postby ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:09 pm

slavedog wrote:
ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:Personally, I don’t think it’s a great idea.

I think most reputable doctors would want to do their own tests rather than accept the results their patient brings along in an envelope. That will mean customers are double charged and the same test is done twice.



My physician at a good hospital in Bangkok has occasionally sent me down the road to have tests done. They can of course do the exact same tests at his hospital but for several times the price. The only difference is that the results take a few days rather that an hour, but for not urgent stuff that's no problem. It probably saved me a hundred bucks each time.

Fair enough. But i think there is a difference between a physician suggesting a place to get tests done and a patient wandering in with tests already done.
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Postby cyclingqueen » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:20 pm

Cost isn't really an issue for most working expats is it, with insurance covering all that stuff. Not sure the appeal of avoiding Raffles clinic is enough to sway people, at least myself.

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Postby pedros » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:22 pm

cyclingqueen wrote:Cost isn't really an issue for most working expats is it, with insurance covering all that stuff. Not sure the appeal of avoiding Raffles clinic is enough to sway people, at least myself.

Good luck though

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Postby ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:56 pm

cyclingqueen wrote:Cost isn't really an issue for most working expats is it, with insurance covering all that stuff. Not sure the appeal of avoiding Raffles clinic is enough to sway people, at least myself.

Good luck though

Time is more significant than cost (for me).
For many tests the costs will be lower than the insurance excess anyway.
Issue for me is if do the test, go to the hospital then they want to do the test again.

Only time is could see myself use the service would be to test a stool sample when I’m camped out on the porcelain throne. For fairly common ailments like giardiasis which has known specific treatments and you could sort yourself out without seeing a doctor.

All the best though - let us know if you decide to proceed.
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Postby Mèo Đen » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:58 pm

jackrossi wrote:As an expat do you think it is makes sense for you to use this kind of service or it makes no sense as you would be fine just paying more by going to a clinic and have them to send the samples to a lab for you?


It makes no sense for me personally, as it makes no sense for me to use a small clinic that has to send samples away which necessitates a second consultation. I want all procedures completed including results and and a consultation concerning the results finished in under two hours.

I use Central hospital, as they can do blood tests more or less immediately and generally cost between $1 and $2 each. The results are usually available within an hour. You can either wait or call back for results. A consultation covering discussion and interpretation of the results is around $20.
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Postby jackrossi » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:07 pm

pedros wrote:Great idea. Where is the lab?


The main lab is located is Kakab, nearby the airport.

Regarding the collaboration with clinics and pharmacies we do that already of course.

Regarding insurance you can claim our services too, sometimes is easier to have the tests done at home especially if you want to have a family check up and dragging the kids to the clinic means wasting quite a lot of time. From what I gathered most expats insurance doesn't cover for tests unless you are in an emergency situation, if you have an excellent insurance the situation is obviously different but I think it's only the case for less than 30% of expats.

Mao den, you make a good point.
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Postby pedros » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:25 pm

jackrossi wrote:
pedros wrote:Great idea. Where is the lab?


The main lab is located is Kakab, nearby the airport.

Regarding the collaboration with clinics and pharmacies we do that already of course.



Good, my place is quite a bit further past the airport. Is a 'walk in'service also available?
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Postby YaTingPom » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:42 pm

Gavin Scott doesn’t do his own tests. He uses Paramed. So there’s one possible customer.
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