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Thames TV April 1979

Postby Lucky Lucan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:09 am

This is well worth a watch, and the quality of the footage is quite amazing.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby kinard » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:02 am

Cheers, hadn't seen that before.

I'm guessing that's William Shawcross chatting with Sihanouk. Got me to dig out the 'River Journeys' episode where he travels up the Mekong from Vietnam into Cambodia around 1983/4.

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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby crazyjohn » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:16 am

Great find LL. Where was the border crossing pictured in the begining, Aranyapratet to Poipet I assume. I didn't know about the booby traps and trip wires, you would need a good point man there. Did the KR not have land mines until later?
We went to the border in 1979 and saw thousands of Khmers behind hastily erected barbed wire barricades. there were huge steel water towers with UNHCR on the side laying on the ground as the camps were established. Early on the Thai Army forced many Khmers back including herding them over the cliffs at Anglong Veng. It was all a plot to extract the maximum money from the UN very quickly.The camps were deliberately built well away from water sources so that the Thai Army could get the lucrative water trucking contract.
My mate went back to Aranyapratet a few weeks later with a group of journos to interview a Khmer Serai leader. They were assisted across the border by Chinese soldiers in dark green uniforms and taken into the bush to meet this man. He was dead the next day, allegedly poisoned with orange juice by the CIA. The Americans and the Thais did not want too many competing Khmer groups to deal with apparently.
Tom Fawthrop who still writes for the Irish Times was one of the journos, you should mail him Lucky and see what he remembers of those days.
I saw him at Hawaii Beach a few years ago and he was very cool. We always remember all those journos as being real cheap charlies If there was free food or beer at a bar opening they would always be there.
We had a Swiss housemate who ran a refugee camp on the border somewhere.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby McPhisto » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:03 am

Fascinating peek inside Western Cambodia, post Vietnamese invasion.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby newnewnewbie » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:11 pm

Good stuff, thanks for posting. Tough as nails to survive those times, I see it in the fam here. Unbelievable.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby YaTingPom » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:18 pm

McPhisto wrote:Fascinating peek inside Western Cambodia, post Vietnamese invasion.

Strictly speaking they were here helping the KR anyway, but they were the bad bad commies not the bad commies.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby Lucky Lucan » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:22 pm

YaTingPom wrote:
McPhisto wrote:Fascinating peek inside Western Cambodia, post Vietnamese invasion.

Strictly speaking they were here helping the KR anyway, but they were the bad bad commies not the bad commies.


Who do you mean by "they" were helping the KR?
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby Petrol Head » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:48 pm

Lucky Lucan wrote:This is well worth a watch, and the quality of the footage is quite amazing.


The balls on those reporters...

Nice work, Lucan.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby YaTingPom » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:04 pm

Lucky Lucan wrote:
YaTingPom wrote:
McPhisto wrote:Fascinating peek inside Western Cambodia, post Vietnamese invasion.

Strictly speaking they were here helping the KR anyway, but they were the bad bad commies not the bad commies.


Who do you mean by "they" were helping the KR?

The bad, bad commies.
North Viets and the Viet Kong.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby Lucky Lucan » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:25 pm

This footage is from 1979, long after reunification, there was no North Vietnam by then and the Vietcong were disbanded in 1976. Cooperation between the Khmer and Vietnamese communists broke down long before then.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby YaTingPom » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:56 pm

Yes I know. Hence my reply to the post implying the Vietnamese were not here (in any form) before 1979.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby McPhisto » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:25 am

YaTingPom wrote:Yes I know. Hence my reply to the post implying the Vietnamese were not here (in any form) before 1979.

Nobody said anything of the sort.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby YaTingPom » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:01 am

McPhisto wrote:
YaTingPom wrote:Yes I know. Hence my reply to the post implying the Vietnamese were not here (in any form) before 1979.

Nobody said anything of the sort.

You’re right they did.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby McPhisto » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:04 pm

YaTingPom wrote:
McPhisto wrote:
YaTingPom wrote:Yes I know. Hence my reply to the post implying the Vietnamese were not here (in any form) before 1979.

Nobody said anything of the sort.

You’re right they did.

You are a tedious little troll.
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Re: Thames TV April 1979

Postby Lucky Lucan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:02 pm

Well just to get back on track here's a Red Cross documentary shot in Cambodia in early 1975. It's all shot in Phnom Penh and other government held areas, you can recognize some locations but most is grim viewing. And as a bonus, I only noticed when the credits rolled that Neil Davis shot it. Amazing quality, I'm so used to seeing rough grainy footage or over compressed video that when I see this I'm astounded.

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