by DetroitMuscle » Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:16 pm
Alexandra wrote:Regardless of what your opinion may be, Bubble T is right. Men are 4 times more likely to die from suicide and women are 3 times more likely to try and fail.
Statistically, that is quite interesting. Men fail at suicide a lot less. Probably because they pick fail safe ways of doing it like shooting their brains out. To me, as an amateur on the topic, it sounds like women's failed attempts are set up to fail as a way to seek attention. If that is the case, and we will probably never know, then it's no wonder that women (not all, see violet for example) in general don't care. Statistically it sounds, to me, like women's failed suicide attempts are cries for attention more than anything else.
It is not normal for men to share their personal problems with their peers. They, as a group, suffer silently. I think because of, and don't accuse me of being a SJW here, gender roles. Women bring gender roles up all the time. Society is unequal and they don't get treated well. The catch is that women are by default victimized and their issues are taken seriously compared to men's issues. Women are belittled, poor them, and it has a price. But a big benefit, the way I see it, is that they always have somebody to talk to. A man with problems loses an important part of his identity when he admits to weakness: masculinity.
Gender roles go both ways. I don't recall any feminist movement talking about it ever. I find that ironic, because they claim to be against gender roles. They are not. They want women to be victimized because that's why they are taken seriously and men are not. They just want to be seen as men when it fits them. For example they want the same salary as men but without losing the ability to take months or in some countries years off as parental leave.
I don't know what we can do about it, if anything at all.
Bless
We are all still walking around with some "programming" left over from our cavemen days.
I think, without being taught (nurture), men just feel like they shouldn't be emotional or talk about our problems because in our minds it will be perceived by females to be a weakness. Female isn't going to mate with the guy with a bunch of self-admitted emotional problems ( or maybe she would, but we don't think so).
[quote="Alexandra"]Regardless of what your opinion may be, Bubble T is right. Men are 4 times more likely to die from suicide and women are 3 times more likely to try and fail.
Statistically, that is quite interesting. Men fail at suicide a lot less. Probably because they pick fail safe ways of doing it like shooting their brains out. To me, as an amateur on the topic, it sounds like women's failed attempts are set up to fail as a way to seek attention. If that is the case, and we will probably never know, then it's no wonder that women (not all, see violet for example) in general don't care. Statistically it sounds, to me, like women's failed suicide attempts are cries for attention more than anything else.
It is not normal for men to share their personal problems with their peers. They, as a group, suffer silently. I think because of, and don't accuse me of being a SJW here, gender roles. Women bring gender roles up all the time. Society is unequal and they don't get treated well. The catch is that women are by default victimized and their issues are taken seriously compared to men's issues. Women are belittled, poor them, and it has a price. But a big benefit, the way I see it, is that they always have somebody to talk to. A man with problems loses an important part of his identity when he admits to weakness: masculinity.
Gender roles go both ways. I don't recall any feminist movement talking about it ever. I find that ironic, because they claim to be against gender roles. They are not. They want women to be victimized because that's why they are taken seriously and men are not. They just want to be seen as men when it fits them. For example they want the same salary as men but without losing the ability to take months or in some countries years off as parental leave.
I don't know what we can do about it, if anything at all.
Bless[/quote]
We are all still walking around with some "programming" left over from our cavemen days.
I think, without being taught (nurture), men just feel like they shouldn't be emotional or talk about our problems because in our minds it will be perceived by females to be a weakness. Female isn't going to mate with the guy with a bunch of self-admitted emotional problems ( or maybe she would, but we don't think so).
