YaTingPom wrote:Karcher Cambodia wrote:YaTingPom wrote:Aren’t they all made in Thailand or China?
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese!
Does that make a difference? My iPhone was made in China.
But I think these cars might be from Turkey, or possibly made elsewhere but assembled in Thailand. Not fully sure but can find out.
Doesn’t make any difference.
It was in reference to your “grey market” comment. If someone imported one privately it’d come from the same factory that Ford Cambodia gets them. Grey market to me means a car not officially imported or of a different specification than the officially imported ones.
There are actually three types of businesses selling cars:
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1. Authorized distributors who pay the required import tariffs and VAT and sell only cars that are appropriate for the Cambodian market.
2. Second-hand dealers of legitimately-imported used cars, or cars imported as new and subsequently sold by the original owner. The VAT compliance of these vendors is variable.
3. ‘Grey market’ dealers selling unofficially imported second-hand cars or cars rebuilt from scrap parts. These vendors contribute little if any taxes to the Royal Government and, furthermore, put unsuitable cars onto Cambodian roads.
" (From the Eurocham White book)
I think I heard 83% of automobile imports were "used", which is what grey importers categorize even their brand new cars as. There are several problems here:
1) Cambodia has the weakest standards in all of ASEAN for inspections of used vehicles, with just a superficial vehicle check being all that is required to meet any sort of safety standards.
2) These used cars being imported could be: Insurance write-offs (through such things as being totaled in an accident or flood damage), stolen cars, or cars not suitable for the market (for instance, a car that require Diesel Euro 6 which is unavailable here). Furthermore, grey dealers are notorious for rolling back the odometers on cars.
3) In 2014, passenger cars and commercial vehicles accounted for 23% of the value of all imports into Cambodia and generated over 250 million USD in tax revenues. As a matter of purpose, the grey market is circumventing this, making it more financially difficult for legitimate dealers to make a profit, and driving up costs for everyone. This might not affect your personal choice in purchasing a car, but it is an issue for the country.
In short, I would personally not buy a grey market car, at least not without an extensive (and verified) vehicle history. But you won't get that with a grey market...
[quote="YaTingPom"][quote="Karcher Cambodia"][quote="YaTingPom"]Aren’t they all made in Thailand or China?
God, isn’t everything made in China. Even my wife is half Chinese! :toilet:[/quote]
Does that make a difference? My iPhone was made in China.
But I think these cars might be from Turkey, or possibly made elsewhere but assembled in Thailand. Not fully sure but can find out.[/quote]
Doesn’t make any difference.
It was in reference to your “grey market” comment. If someone imported one privately it’d come from the same factory that Ford Cambodia gets them. Grey market to me means a car not officially imported or of a different specification than the officially imported ones.[/quote]
There are actually three types of businesses selling cars:
"
1. Authorized distributors who pay the required import tariffs and VAT and sell only cars that are appropriate for the Cambodian market.
2. Second-hand dealers of legitimately-imported used cars, or cars imported as new and subsequently sold by the original owner. The VAT compliance of these vendors is variable.
3. ‘Grey market’ dealers selling unofficially imported second-hand cars or cars rebuilt from scrap parts. These vendors contribute little if any taxes to the Royal Government and, furthermore, put unsuitable cars onto Cambodian roads.
" (From the Eurocham White book)
I think I heard 83% of automobile imports were "used", which is what grey importers categorize even their brand new cars as. There are several problems here:
1) Cambodia has the weakest standards in all of ASEAN for inspections of used vehicles, with just a superficial vehicle check being all that is required to meet any sort of safety standards.
2) These used cars being imported could be: Insurance write-offs (through such things as being totaled in an accident or flood damage), stolen cars, or cars not suitable for the market (for instance, a car that require Diesel Euro 6 which is unavailable here). Furthermore, grey dealers are notorious for rolling back the odometers on cars.
3) In 2014, passenger cars and commercial vehicles accounted for 23% of the value of all imports into Cambodia and generated over 250 million USD in tax revenues. As a matter of purpose, the grey market is circumventing this, making it more financially difficult for legitimate dealers to make a profit, and driving up costs for everyone. This might not affect your personal choice in purchasing a car, but it is an issue for the country.
In short, I would personally not buy a grey market car, at least not without an extensive (and verified) vehicle history. But you won't get that with a grey market...