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Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

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Re: Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote Lucky Lucan

by Lucky Lucan » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:53 pm

The Viets were under Chinese rule for about a thousand years, when the territory was all in the north of what it is now. They became independent in the 10th century after defeating a Southern Han fleet, and not long afterwards began their expansion south.
The Viets were under Chinese rule for about a thousand years, when the territory was all in the north of what it is now. They became independent in the 10th century after defeating a Southern Han fleet, and not long afterwards began their expansion south.

Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote jm

by jm » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:51 pm

vladimir wrote:My understanding ... one Chinese administrator committed suicide in despair because the Viets refused to submit. He claimed the Viets were ungovernable.
Not sure about that.

.... but it was in 1841 that General Truong Minh Giang committed suicide by poisoning himself when his military and administrative campaign failed in Cambodia. He had been responsible to the emperor for Khmer Vietnamization version 1.0 which Khmers weren't much interested in to his fatal humiliation. Vietnam battled with Thailand four more years for control of Khmerlandia but the Thais got the better of the negotiated peace

And that Johnny is why even today we have to go to Saigon for a good bowl of pho


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[quote="vladimir"]My understanding ... one Chinese administrator committed suicide in despair because the Viets refused to submit. He claimed the Viets were ungovernable.[/quote]
Not sure about that.

.... but it was in 1841 that General Truong Minh Giang committed suicide by poisoning himself when his military and administrative campaign failed in Cambodia. He had been responsible to the emperor for Khmer Vietnamization version 1.0 which Khmers weren't much interested in to his fatal humiliation. Vietnam battled with Thailand four more years for control of Khmerlandia but the Thais got the better of the negotiated peace

And that Johnny is why even today we have to go to Saigon for a good bowl of pho


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Re: Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote vladimir

by vladimir » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:35 pm

My understanding of exchanges between Vietnam and China is that China got their butt kicked. one Chinese administrator committed suicide in despair because the Viets refused to submit. He claimed the Viets were ungovernable.
My understanding of exchanges between Vietnam and China is that China got their butt kicked. one Chinese administrator committed suicide in despair because the Viets refused to submit. He claimed the Viets were ungovernable.

Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote Playboy

by Playboy » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:07 pm

Lucky Lucan wrote:Hmmm, distorting history? Wait till Kon Khmer gets wind of this, he'll throw a right fucking tantrum.
He will scream and scream and scream until he is sick
[quote="Lucky Lucan"]Hmmm, distorting history? Wait till Kon Khmer gets wind of this, he'll throw a right fucking tantrum.[/quote]
He will scream and scream and scream until he is sick

Re: Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote Lucky Lucan

by Lucky Lucan » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:47 pm

Hmmm, distorting history? Wait till Kon Khmer gets wind of this, he'll throw a right fucking tantrum.
Hmmm, distorting history? Wait till Kon Khmer gets wind of this, he'll throw a right fucking tantrum.

Re: Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote springrain

by springrain » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:38 pm

Oh, I shouldn't worry; there are probably some guides showing tourists around Washington DC, telling them it is a city based on the Holy Roman Empire & beyond. You know, all those obelisks and things. Wait a minute ...

(Mr LJ, no offence meant & apologies for a slant on your thread. Just making a point, mate.)
Oh, I shouldn't worry; there are probably some guides showing tourists around Washington DC, telling them it is a city based on the Holy Roman Empire & beyond. You know, all those obelisks and things. Wait a minute ...

(Mr LJ, no offence meant & apologies for a slant on your thread. Just making a point, mate.)

Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history

  • Quote Mr Lovejuice

by Mr Lovejuice » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:20 pm

Who thinks they are right? Lol. Actually, everyone apart from the Chinese used to own China.

Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history
Thanh Nien News
DA NANG - Wednesday, June 29, 2016 15:48Email Print

A Chinese tour guide is leading a group of tourists in the central city of Da Nang. Photo credit: VnExpressA Chinese tour guide is leading a group of tourists in the central city of Da Nang. Photo credit: VnExpress
RELATED NEWS
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Da Nang authorities are verifying accusations that many Chinese tour guides are operating illegally in the central city and providing incorrect information about Vietnam’s history to tourists.
Tran Chi Cuong, deputy director of the Da Nang Tourism Department, said many local guides have complained and provided photos and videos to his agency as proof.
Cuong told reporters that the evidence showed many Chinese tour guides operating illegally and using yuan to buy stuff.
One of them, Xue Chun Zhe, took a group of Chinese tourists to the Linh Ung Pagoda and said Vietnam used to be part of China 14 centuries ago before gaining independence, but currently still depends on China.
According to local tour guides, some 60 Chinese nationals work illegally as tour guides.
One guide, who asked to remain unnamed, said many of the Chinese even introduce Da Nang’s beach as part of China’s sea.
“[They] often tell tourists not to listen to Vietnamese tour guides because Vietnamese hate China,” he said.
According to the local tour guides, many Chinese operate tour companies with a local director acting as a front.
Most of the illegal guides work for these companies, they said.
http://www.thanhniennews.com/travel/ill ... 63642.html
Who thinks they are right? Lol. Actually, everyone apart from the Chinese used to own China.

Illegal Chinese tour guides in Vietnam accused of distorting nation's history
Thanh Nien News

[quote]DA NANG - Wednesday, June 29, 2016 15:48Email Print

A Chinese tour guide is leading a group of tourists in the central city of Da Nang. Photo credit: VnExpressA Chinese tour guide is leading a group of tourists in the central city of Da Nang. Photo credit: VnExpress
RELATED NEWS
Korean, Chinese travel firms operate illegal Da Nang tours
Vietnam set to deport Korean man for overstaying visa, working as tour guide
Da Nang authorities are verifying accusations that many Chinese tour guides are operating illegally in the central city and providing incorrect information about Vietnam’s history to tourists.
Tran Chi Cuong, deputy director of the Da Nang Tourism Department, said many local guides have complained and provided photos and videos to his agency as proof.
Cuong told reporters that the evidence showed many Chinese tour guides operating illegally and using yuan to buy stuff.
One of them, Xue Chun Zhe, took a group of Chinese tourists to the Linh Ung Pagoda and said Vietnam used to be part of China 14 centuries ago before gaining independence, but currently still depends on China.
According to local tour guides, some 60 Chinese nationals work illegally as tour guides.
One guide, who asked to remain unnamed, said many of the Chinese even introduce Da Nang’s beach as part of China’s sea.
“[They] often tell tourists not to listen to Vietnamese tour guides because Vietnamese hate China,” he said.
According to the local tour guides, many Chinese operate tour companies with a local director acting as a front.
Most of the illegal guides work for these companies, they said.[/quote]

http://www.thanhniennews.com/travel/illegal-chinese-tour-guides-in-vietnam-accused-of-distorting-nations-history-63642.html

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