Swedish expat kidnapped, robbed and murdered by Africans
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No, I'm not making that bet. I never bet against the black guy when I wager on boxing matches or suspected murderers.keeping_it_riel wrote: Possibly. But I'm willing to bet you $100 that the story as it transpires turns out to be pretty much as told on this thread.
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Another article from the Swedish press. Unfortunately, it's in Swedish, so it reads like the Muppet Show chef's jibberish until you run it through google translate.
http://www.kvp.se/Nyheter/1.1780637/aff ... i-kambodja
http://www.kvp.se/Nyheter/1.1780637/aff ... i-kambodja
Businessman Ola Jordan Johansson, 45, found dead in Cambodia
Businessman Ola Jordan Johansson, 45, found dead in Cambodia.
The body was found in a ditch a few mil south of the capital Phnom Penh.
- He was shattered. Police suspect he was murdered, says his brother Staffan Jordansson.
. November 15, 2009
Businessman mysteriously disappeared in Cambodia.
Ola Jordansson ran a hotel business in the coastal town of Sihanoukville, and has lived in Cambodia for several years. At 22 o'clock last Thursday, he was picked up by a woman he met over the Internet. On Friday morning he was still not back at the hotel. While checked into a man who later took into Ola Jordan's room and stole everything valuable out of the safe.
Found dead
Police suspected Ola Jordansson had been kidnapped and forced to hand over the hotel key and code to the safe under threat.
On Friday, found a dead person with a Western appearance south of the capital Phnom Penh. On Saturday identified the body, and police found that there was no Ola Jordansson.
- There is heavy. The fact that he has been away for a while, it is perhaps not surprising, says brother Staffan Jordansson.
According to his brother suspects the police that he was murdered.
- He was broken and was found dead in a ditch a few mil to the south of Phnom Penh. There is an ongoing police investigation down there, "he says.
Foreign Ministry confirms
The family still do not know how to carry home the body.
- We must take a decision on how to take him home - if he is cremated on the spot or flown home in the coffin.
Swedish foreign ministry confirmed that Ola Jordansson now been found dead.
- He was reported missing yesterday and the body was identified today. I do not know when he was found, but there is suspicion of crime, "says Camilla Åkesson Lindbom the Foreign Ministry's press service
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FAF. Gives an opinion, but hasnt the confidence in his own words to back it up with a betgavinmac wrote:I'm a soft pc liberal apologist? Fantastic! Can I get my free money from Obama now to buy Toyota hybrids and pita bread?obsession wrote:Thats exactly the type of pc crap we were talking about. An African guy murders and robs someone and theres soft pc liberal apologists attacking people for saying he was African. You couldnt make this shit up.
I'm not attacking KiR for saying the perp was African. I'm poking fun at KiR for the way he is relishing the perpetrator's Africanness and attempting to use this crime to taunt the liberal pc brigade like they are Man U fans after Man City just won a big derby.
I mean, immediately sticking a headline up that says "White expat murdered by Africans," when the evidence of perpetrator's Africanness is still sketchy, and the evidence of there being multiple "Africans" involved is absolutely nil, seems a little over the top to me. Given that K440 had this story faster than any other outlet, this was a story that could have brought readership to the site, but headlines like that are going to drive reasonable non-skinhead readers away.
Effective race-baiting should be much more subtle than this. You have to start slowly, pretend you're objective, learn about and then selectively report certain facts while strategically omitting others that don't support your position, then slowly build to the regrettable but undeniable conclusion that "I'm not a racist, and I hate to say this, but Cambodia really must deport all of these Africans back to the jungle before they kill the rest of us white folk."
Right now, the facts just aren't there yet in this story. All we know so far is that a dark skinned guy was supposedly poking around the victim's room around the time of his death. That doesn't mean he killed him. I mean, he could have been a Jack Bauer-type Nigerian good samaritan poking around the victim's room safe for evidence of where the real killers took him. It's too early to tell.
Let's give this more time, hear more facts, and then act like any anti-African conclusions we must draw are based on those facts. That's how the pros do it.
I dont see the thread title as " Racial Baiting". And "Racial Baiting" is just another soft liberal saying
And this was nonsense...............KIR was "relishing the perpetrator's Africanness". Im actually speechless at that.
I'm about as far away from a leftist liberal do-gooder you can get. If there is a problem with certain groups of immigrants, or cultural/social backgrounds who pre-dispose people to commit crime, it's absolutely a valid subject of discussion.
But KiR is implying that certain physical features such as dark skin pigmentation causes people to murder/steal/cheat. He even almost seems happy for the opportunity to bash Africans. That is beyond ridiculous.
As for the Swedish media, it has turned political correctness into an art form. Hell will freeze over before they call a criminal anything else but Swedish unless it's a white heterosexual man from a Western country. When they publish photos of criminals and conceal the faces with 'pixelization' (Swedish media has a tradition of not revealing identities of criminals, even convicted ones) they even lighten the skin tone. Examples: http://www.ungsvensk.se/showthread.php?t=3942
And any criticism of immigration policy, such as asking if it wouldn't be better to help refugees locally instead of using vast amounts of money to give the few who has the ability to reach the other end of the world a lifetime of welfare, is totally unheard of.
Not to mention any criticism about any behavior of any immigrants. Then they will definitely publish your personal details, make sure your career is ruined, and sometimes incite snotty kids from Antifa to blow your car up (actual case).
THAT is ALSO ridiculous.
But KiR is implying that certain physical features such as dark skin pigmentation causes people to murder/steal/cheat. He even almost seems happy for the opportunity to bash Africans. That is beyond ridiculous.
As for the Swedish media, it has turned political correctness into an art form. Hell will freeze over before they call a criminal anything else but Swedish unless it's a white heterosexual man from a Western country. When they publish photos of criminals and conceal the faces with 'pixelization' (Swedish media has a tradition of not revealing identities of criminals, even convicted ones) they even lighten the skin tone. Examples: http://www.ungsvensk.se/showthread.php?t=3942
And any criticism of immigration policy, such as asking if it wouldn't be better to help refugees locally instead of using vast amounts of money to give the few who has the ability to reach the other end of the world a lifetime of welfare, is totally unheard of.
Not to mention any criticism about any behavior of any immigrants. Then they will definitely publish your personal details, make sure your career is ruined, and sometimes incite snotty kids from Antifa to blow your car up (actual case).
THAT is ALSO ridiculous.
I for one am glad to see some debate. It was as if no one
on here has an education.
I am an African, but not from Nigeria. In my African homeland,
there are many who are victims of crime. If you took a poll,
Send the Nigerians Home, would win.
The title of this thread includes ME. I don't like that.
The root of the cause is really the Brits. They planted the
seeds of this trouble and they fan the flames. Shame on them.
on here has an education.
I am an African, but not from Nigeria. In my African homeland,
there are many who are victims of crime. If you took a poll,
Send the Nigerians Home, would win.
The title of this thread includes ME. I don't like that.
The root of the cause is really the Brits. They planted the
seeds of this trouble and they fan the flames. Shame on them.
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Well the Cambodia Daily have run the story today. And guess what? Exactly as I predicted yesterday, they omitted what we all know to be crucial detail of the case - namely that the key suspects are African. As is usually the case with the liberal left media, when faced with an inconvenient truth or a fact that contradicts their ideology they airbrush it. I really hope that there is a special place in hell for liberals.
btw.....Florida, I recently read a newspaper article about British people getting drunk and behaving badly in the capital of Latvia. The title was something like 'Brits and their Drunken Antics Wear Out their Welcome in Riga.' At no point did I take that to mean every single British person in the world went to Riga, drank too much and pissed off the locals, nor should you take the title of this thread to mean that every African is a murderer.
btw.....Florida, I recently read a newspaper article about British people getting drunk and behaving badly in the capital of Latvia. The title was something like 'Brits and their Drunken Antics Wear Out their Welcome in Riga.' At no point did I take that to mean every single British person in the world went to Riga, drank too much and pissed off the locals, nor should you take the title of this thread to mean that every African is a murderer.
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Um, a couple of things KiR:keeping_it_riel wrote:Well the Cambodia Daily have run the story today. And guess what? Exactly as I predicted yesterday, they omitted what we all know to be crucial detail of the case - namely that the key suspects are African
1. The newspaper didn't report the suspects as being African because they can't speculate on that based purely on the fact that the dude was black. They have to show a little more accountability than that. Evidently, internet forums don't.
2. How is the perpetrator's nationality a "crucial detail"? Surely the fact that there is a scam inwhich some Khmer chick who you "met on the internet" gets you kidnapped and murdered is more crucial to making sure it doesn't happen again?
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Because these guys could pull their scam again sometime soon. Right now, some poor guy could be chatting online unaware that he's being set up to be abducted and murdered by an organized African criminal gang.How is the perpetrator's nationality a "crucial detail"?
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Yes, but unless the internet posts are from a girl who says "I'm a hot Khmer chick affiliated with an African gang", knowing their nationality doesn't make a difference, it's simply knowing the scam that's important. You probably don't get to find out their nationality until they are torturing you for your pin number.keeping_it_riel wrote:Because these guys could pull their scam again sometime soon. Right now, some poor guy could be chatting online unaware that he's being set up to be abducted and murdered by an organized African criminal gang.How is the perpetrator's nationality a "crucial detail"?
I also reiterate that a newspaper can't publish details of a person's nationality based purely on skin color, and I'm pretty sure you know that. If JM is right that the cops have now arrested a Nigerian over it, then my guess is that the papers will report it, though probably not with the headline "Dirty black West African kidnaps and kills white man", which is the type of headline I can imagine you coming up with.
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Well, the surveillance footage showed a black guy entering his room, so if the Khmer cops arrested a black guy, they must have gotten it right.
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KiR, for the sake of consistency, should you not be urging all potential 'poor guys' to avoid making any kind of relationship with Cambodian girls via the internet?
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