"Buy me a phone."
"Buy me a phone."
I've been in Phnom Penh for a little less than one month now. I've been adhering to the brilliant Toyota Corolla Rule when it comes to bargirls. I go out probably every other night, not necessarily to hostess bars but in general. I've gotten it in with five different girls. There is one girl who I've started to actually like beyond just a physical attraction. Nothing serious, just a small glimmer of potential, that's all. I've been with her three times in the last two weeks.
Yesterday, she indicated that she lost her phone. I actually have a spare phone, a cheap Nokia piece-o-shit that I offered to just give to her but she wants a fancy $300 phone (she said Sony??). She said, in no uncertain terms, that I should buy her a new phone. Now, I wouldn't even buy my girlfriend back in New York a new phone, and I'm certainly not going to buy this Khmer girl one. I even said, "what would i get in return for a new phone?" How far does a $300 purchase go with these girls? I know some want more than that per month to shop/send to their families/etc. Maybe if I knew her for a longer time I would consider it for longer than 2 seconds.
It's disappointing but I guess to be expected. Thankfully I'm not an idiot who gets attached easily, but I can see how some of these retards here fall into a trap.
Yesterday, she indicated that she lost her phone. I actually have a spare phone, a cheap Nokia piece-o-shit that I offered to just give to her but she wants a fancy $300 phone (she said Sony??). She said, in no uncertain terms, that I should buy her a new phone. Now, I wouldn't even buy my girlfriend back in New York a new phone, and I'm certainly not going to buy this Khmer girl one. I even said, "what would i get in return for a new phone?" How far does a $300 purchase go with these girls? I know some want more than that per month to shop/send to their families/etc. Maybe if I knew her for a longer time I would consider it for longer than 2 seconds.
It's disappointing but I guess to be expected. Thankfully I'm not an idiot who gets attached easily, but I can see how some of these retards here fall into a trap.
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Just say "NO" ! and move on, you know you are being set up for a sucker punch.
I refuse to go out with nothing more than a whimper followed by a small farting sound and a shit stain on my bed sheets..
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Just thought I'd share that with you.
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It sounds like your response was as crude as her request. You both need to learn to be a little more subtle.Pecahead wrote:I even said, "what would i get in return for a new phone?"
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In return you will get a valuable lesson into why you should never buy a 300$ phone for a bargirl.Pecahead wrote:"what would i get in return for a new phone?"
A tree born crooked will never grow straight.
Its was partly sex, gavin, but it was also partly reciprocal generosity. In Khmer culture, as you probably know, a gift if usually returned in due course. I know when I gave my students chocolates for a holiday last week, the next day many of them brought in something for me (like a thank you card or a flower). In that sense, I sincerely want to know what this girl would do if I bought her a $300 phone? My guess: probably nothing.
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The way I countered this last time a "girl that had a glimmer of hope" asked me for a phone is that I looked at the price of the phone then worked out how much I would have had to pay her for the time she was with me if I paid her daily then when that total reached 2/3 the phone value I bought it for her (It was also legitimately her birthday so I threw in 1/3 for 'free' - yes I am generous).
Problem solved, she 'bought' the phone and later when I stopped seeing the I remembered to add the phone value to the total of money she had gotten from me in that final argument.
Problem solved, she 'bought' the phone and later when I stopped seeing the I remembered to add the phone value to the total of money she had gotten from me in that final argument.
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I don't think so. However sweet she may appear, she's treating you like an idiot punter and deserves a firmer response than peca gave her. Learn and move on, dude.gavinmac wrote:It sounds like your response was as crude as her request. You both need to learn to be a little more subtle.Pecahead wrote:I even said, "what would i get in return for a new phone?"
I came, I argued, I'm out
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Each time I read ur posts, I'm getting ready to write response, but at the very end of each post u answer ur own questions.... Congrats, I guess!
Each time I read ur posts, I'm getting ready to write response, but at the very end of each post u answer ur own questions.... Congrats, I guess!
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Last night I had dinner with 4 Khmers. When the bill came they gave it to A. I went to take the bill but B grabbed it from her. She then ran off to pay it. A then told me that I should not worrying about paying. I said to her that 1. I had a job, 2. I was the oldest, and 3. I was male, thus I should pay. Speaking of B, A then replied "but her father is a very rich and important man, she is happy to pay for all of us". C and D sipped their drinks and giggled. Then B told me I could pay next time if I really wanted to.
BTW, getting a lift home via a new Lexus SUV/tank with AC sure beats a tuk-tuk any day.
Anyway, not all Khmer women are looking for a barang wallet.
BTW, getting a lift home via a new Lexus SUV/tank with AC sure beats a tuk-tuk any day.
Anyway, not all Khmer women are looking for a barang wallet.
That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.
Good you've noticed that. Actually, only a tiny but popular minority does.connecticuter wrote:Last night I had dinner with 4 Khmers. When the bill came they gave it to A. I went to take the bill but B grabbed it from her. She then ran off to pay it. A then told me that I should not worrying about paying. I said to her that 1. I had a job, 2. I was the oldest, and 3. I was male, thus I should pay. Speaking of B, A then replied "but her father is a very rich and important man, she is happy to pay for all of us". C and D sipped their drinks and giggled. Then B told me I could pay next time if I really wanted to.
BTW, getting a lift home via a new Lexus SUV/tank with AC sure beats a tuk-tuk any day.
Anyway, not all Khmer women are looking for a barang wallet.
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My then fiance wanted an erikkson phone. I think it was around $180. I got her a $75 Nokia. She still married me, still using her phone, and still happy with it. I know its not the phone she wanted, and she knows that I don't have everything I've ever wanted either. I guess we have a normal relationship as opposed to a bar girl relationship where there is actually a materialistic basis for even just hanging out.
That said, I remember having a conversation with my wife before we got engaged. She said that I would have to buy a house, a car and a new motorbike for her family before we got married. I laughed and said even if I could I wouldn't. Why? Because I don't want a relationship that it feels like I bought. She understood, she respected me for saying so, and we got on with getting to know each other. Now it's accepted that even though I'm the main bread winner, we have to work together to reach certain goals in life.
This was traditional courtship in the country side though. A whole different ball game to the city barang and bargirl scene, which I know little about.
That said, I remember having a conversation with my wife before we got engaged. She said that I would have to buy a house, a car and a new motorbike for her family before we got married. I laughed and said even if I could I wouldn't. Why? Because I don't want a relationship that it feels like I bought. She understood, she respected me for saying so, and we got on with getting to know each other. Now it's accepted that even though I'm the main bread winner, we have to work together to reach certain goals in life.
This was traditional courtship in the country side though. A whole different ball game to the city barang and bargirl scene, which I know little about.
Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
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No but last week I did cook them Gnocchi's in Sunday sauce, with a nice Italian salad on the side.andyinasia wrote:But did you buy her a phone?
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Sunday sauce (I only made a few substitutions)
http://www.food.com/recipe/sopranos-sun ... auce-64750
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That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.
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