graffiti and no one cares?
The "flying girl" is beautiful. I hope s/he comes to 178 for some urban beautification. In fact I'm so smitten I'm taking a trip to 430 tomorrow to see her up close and personal. As for graffiti, I agree with the OP. It is becoming more common in Phnom Penh. As if the city didn't already have enough problems to worry about. (use your imagination to insert images of homeless, vulnerable kids, piles of garbage, the stench of said garbage, a few too many black Range Rovers politely tooting their horns as they nimble through traffic, countless yet worthless traffic cops looking for a way to justify their existence and the absolute scourge of white-faces throughout the kingdom: tuk-tuk drivers!)
But I digress.
Where I come from, graffiti vandalism is a way of life. A scourge on the landscape. And to be fair, it's not just my homeland. A visit to Amsterdam a few years back left me shocked and bewildered. The amount of uncontrolled, ugly graffiti in that city on grand, historic and beautiful buildings left me reeling! At the time I thought to myself 'what the f#ck are the Dutch thinking?'. Where are the laws? Where is the enforcement? Where is the pride in their culture? I haven't been back since so I don't know if things have improved...
But here we are in Phnom Penh, 2012. Seriously I'd like the Cambodians to pass a law that allowed for concerned citizens and the constabulary to SHOOT ON SITE any graffiti vandal caught in flagrante! Of course this could cause other problems. I won't quibble about that. But I suspect that it would at least cause most of these low-lifes to reconsider. Perhaps there would only be one(or three?) sacrificial lambs? Word would spread. And Cambodia would remain free of this scourge. Sorted.
But I digress.
Where I come from, graffiti vandalism is a way of life. A scourge on the landscape. And to be fair, it's not just my homeland. A visit to Amsterdam a few years back left me shocked and bewildered. The amount of uncontrolled, ugly graffiti in that city on grand, historic and beautiful buildings left me reeling! At the time I thought to myself 'what the f#ck are the Dutch thinking?'. Where are the laws? Where is the enforcement? Where is the pride in their culture? I haven't been back since so I don't know if things have improved...
But here we are in Phnom Penh, 2012. Seriously I'd like the Cambodians to pass a law that allowed for concerned citizens and the constabulary to SHOOT ON SITE any graffiti vandal caught in flagrante! Of course this could cause other problems. I won't quibble about that. But I suspect that it would at least cause most of these low-lifes to reconsider. Perhaps there would only be one(or three?) sacrificial lambs? Word would spread. And Cambodia would remain free of this scourge. Sorted.
Truth. Beauty. Justice.
My wife likes the flying girl, and the monkey writing no pissing on the wall, and the colourful mural sized tagging. She was less than impressed with that black smudge on the street sign.
Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
I had a friend a uni who pretty much just did tags. But he climbed up onto the rooftops. You could look around parts of Sydney, and wherever you'd look up, he'd be there. Pretty awesome, and I like that a few of them are still there 10 years later.digiboy wrote:Tagging....is hopeless little wannabe cunts.....
Tags and even terror lines are pretty good sometimes. But for the most part they just look shithouse.
Do they have snipers in Sydney? Sorted.
Do they have painters and maintenance workers in Sydney? Sorted.
"Pretty awesome..." Shame on you.
Do they have painters and maintenance workers in Sydney? Sorted.
"Pretty awesome..." Shame on you.
Truth. Beauty. Justice.
No. We have neither of those things.DieHard wrote:Do they have snipers in Sydney? Sorted.
Do they have painters and maintenance workers in Sydney? Sorted.
Shame on yourself dickhead! Pull your fucking head in!
Artistic merit is a relative...with everyone saying that pieces and illustrations can be seen as art (legal or otherwise). Tagging can (sometimes) be a claim to ownership of the city from below.
I like that aspect of tagging and even terror lines, and yes, I think it's "pretty awesome", particularly when it takes place on CBD rooftops.Banksy wrote:You say the city belongs to you and your laws? Well then how come it’s got MY name written all over it.
Okay, Willem. You're pro-graffiti. I can understand that. You evidently think it's "artistic" and "relative" and a "claim to ownership of the city from below". Whatever that means.
I think it's a form of ugly, criminal, trespassing vandalism. I think it mars the landscape. I think it causes a certain hopelessness. I think it encourages young, impressionable children to see and perhaps emulate. I think it opens the door to other petty criminal activity. I think it sucks. I think it should be eradicated with the harshest possible means.
Except for "flying girl".
I think it's a form of ugly, criminal, trespassing vandalism. I think it mars the landscape. I think it causes a certain hopelessness. I think it encourages young, impressionable children to see and perhaps emulate. I think it opens the door to other petty criminal activity. I think it sucks. I think it should be eradicated with the harshest possible means.
Except for "flying girl".
Truth. Beauty. Justice.
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I don't expect the government to do any thing. The police HA HA there is a joke don't expect any thing from them.
I have the easy answer I just pay a crew to go cover it up. The unofficial anti graffiti task force.
I'm talking about the Big letters that spell something no one can read .
The Monkey and the flying girl are cool and stuff like that can stay.
Brian
I have the easy answer I just pay a crew to go cover it up. The unofficial anti graffiti task force.
I'm talking about the Big letters that spell something no one can read .
The Monkey and the flying girl are cool and stuff like that can stay.
Brian
Good idea. Do you have a painting crew in mind? I could make some calls if you need to find a crew. A local church group could be keen, and might even see that they are doing a public service as well as making some pocket money.AeroCambodia wrote:I don't expect the government to do any thing. The police HA HA there is a joke don't expect any thing from them.
I have the easy answer I just pay a crew to go cover it up. The unofficial anti graffiti task force.
I'm talking about the Big letters that spell something no one can read .
The Monkey and the flying girl are cool and stuff like that can stay.
Brian
Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
I say just start using J-DAM bombs (like the one's the Americans use) on ANY neighbourhood suspected of harbouring this filthy & evil element of Cambodian society.
I mean Cambodia really should start addressing this harrowing issue as paramount importance immediately before it gets completely out of control.
Next thing we'll have bulldozers destroying innocent peoples homes making way for government commerce projects!
I mean Cambodia really should start addressing this harrowing issue as paramount importance immediately before it gets completely out of control.
Next thing we'll have bulldozers destroying innocent peoples homes making way for government commerce projects!
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I prefer ugly Graffiti to ugly advertising. There's not really a difference. A friend of mine lives pretty close to Melbourne's CBD. He has been there for two years and one day someone decides to let out the roof of their building so someone can stick a giant ass tv screen on the top of it and play endless reruns of a Kia commercial.
A better idea is to get a bunch of kids/youth to go and paint murals. Decent ones. Everywhere. Imagine if that whole fence on 430 was a giant colourful mural like the insides of some wats (though with a more tangible message like discouraging littering or something)? It looks nice and might encourage some civic responsibility (though the painted billboards along the black canals don't seem to be working..) and it's unlikely to get tagged up. The respect tagger's will often/sometimes show for other artist's work is far beyond what they'll show to private property.MoodyMac wrote:Good idea. Do you have a painting crew in mind? I could make some calls if you need to find a crew. A local church group could be keen, and might even see that they are doing a public service as well as making some pocket money.AeroCambodia wrote:I don't expect the government to do any thing. The police HA HA there is a joke don't expect any thing from them.
I have the easy answer I just pay a crew to go cover it up. The unofficial anti graffiti task force.
I'm talking about the Big letters that spell something no one can read .
The Monkey and the flying girl are cool and stuff like that can stay.
Brian
graffiti is real,deal with it cuz it aint going nowhere its been around for thousands of years and will be around for a thousand more.it will out live you and your family...................yes its outta your control and thats why you hate it,and thats why we love it..
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Agree, like the giant bullshit screen near Olympic.Graffiti is art, and in some cases it can be beautiful, better than a dull monochrome dirty wall, boring. Just have competitions to develop skills and get art instead of crap.I understand why the OP dislikes some of the pointless /talentless garbage though.However, Cambodia has a few more pressing concerns than policing painters at the moment.tuk-tukfish wrote:I prefer ugly Graffiti to ugly advertising. There's not really a difference. A friend of mine lives pretty close to Melbourne's CBD. He has been there for two years and one day someone decides to let out the roof of their building so someone can stick a giant ass tv screen on the top of it and play endless reruns of a Kia commercial.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.