What is radical feminism ?
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radical feminism is when a woman has ANY kind of problem and blames it on a man. The usual punishment of choice is castration, liberal-enabled employment domination, and general moral superiority, whilst maintaining no religious values whatsoever.It all adds up to a pain in the ass.Man-haters are usually those who were'nt loved by their fathers, who had the good sense to realise their daughters were budding losers.Only the absolute insanity of US led politics has even allowed their existence and continued survival.Doe s anybody know any good feminist jokes?
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Yeah, try reading Valerie Solanos SCUM *manifesto, or any of the books by lard ass pachyderm Andrea Dworkin, they are fookin hilarious.vladimir wrote:Doe s anybody know any good feminist jokes?
*Society for Cutting Up Men. Valerie was also well known for being the chick who shot Andy Warhol.
Radical feminism.
So would that make some of the guys here radical masculists?
radical feminism is when a woman has ANY kind of problem and blames it on a man.
So would that make some of the guys here radical masculists?
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Perhaps radical masculinists is the word you were looking for? I don`t see anyone putting on "The penis speeches" though.Nirvana wrote: So would that make some of the guys here radical masculists?
You know this country is going down the fucking tubes when a bunch of pachyderms put on a showing of "The Vagina Monologues" at FCCC , and it sells out, no prizes for guessing how many Khmers went to the performance. As far as I know, Khmer Women would rather be chopped into pieces and fed to the pigs than shout out loud about vaginas.
Im hoping there will be more unrest in the coming weeks, which should send all of their lard asses scuttling for the nearest exit, especially if Java or Pencil get ransacked.
Like "femininists"??? No, I mean masculists.hanky wrote:Perhaps radical masculinists is the word you were looking for?Nirvana wrote: So would that make some of the guys here radical masculists?
Masculinism, as far as I know, aims to break stereotyping of straight men. You think that applies here???
I don`t see anyone putting on "The penis speeches" though.
So "nyuh, nyuh" ...?
You imply (irrelevantly at that) certain groups have their priorities mixed up and then that's the sign the country may be going down the tubes for you??? You may as well make a post titled, 'Bush Administration Enforces More Conservative Dress For Bar Workers Thus Alleviating Poverty In the Nation' or something.You know this country is going down the fucking tubes when a bunch of pachyderms put on a showing of "The Vagina Monologues" at FCCC , and it sells out, no prizes for guessing how many Khmers went to the performance.
And my Jr. high aged cousin called: he wants his vocabulary back.
Niiice.As far as I know, Khmer Women would rather be chopped into pieces and fed to the pigs than shout out loud about vaginas.
Im hoping there will be more unrest in the coming weeks, which should send all of their lard asses scuttling for the nearest exit, especially if Java or Pencil get ransacked.
... which totally deconfirms my busting of chops, right? Don't know what your damage is or what an obscure theatrical play/musical/whatever it is has to do with what I said, but remove that huuuuuge stick from your ass and lighten up. Plus I'm trying to be all good natured and you're just defeating it by making it seem spot-on.
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Masculists, a movement with a total membership of what? Two? Zero?
In Sweden, a feminist locomotive stalls on the tracks
As one of the world's most gender-equal countries - a land where 80 percent of the women have jobs, where about half of the members of Parliament are female - does Sweden need a feminist party?
Many people thought so this spring, when a number of high-profile Swedish women began Feministiskt Initiativ, or Feminist Initiative. Polls then showed that almost a quarter of the electorate would consider voting for the party in parliamentary elections next year.
Six months later, however, that backing has imploded as Sweden rethinks the politics of sex.
Feminist Initiative is in disarray after the loss of several founding members who abruptly departed over the radical direction the party was taking. At its recent founding congress, for example, instead of tackling a mainstream platform as planned, the party presented proposals to abolish marriage and create "gender-neutral" names.
Support for feminism took another hit this summer with the airing of a Swedish television documentary called "The Gender War." A wrenching debate was set off by the film, which showed militant feminism to be widespread, reaching into official circles: Ireen von Wachenfeldt, the chairwoman of ROKS, Sweden's largest women's shelter organization, for one, was shown asserting that "men are animals."
Suddenly the belief that politics, business, even private life should be reformed to allow a more equal society - a belief that has permeated Swedish politics for several decades - is being openly questioned. In the latest opinion polls, a meager 1.3 percent of respondents said they would give the feminist party their votes.
"This could be a backlash," said Yvonne Hirdman, a professor of history at Stockholm University, adding that she believed many people were glad.
In the early 1970s, the powerful Social Democratic Party made feminism part of its platform. Since then, gender equality has become an important backdrop to almost all areas of policy - especially family policy.
The Swedish child-care system has grown in both size and scope, with parental leave ever more generous - now 480 days of paid leave per couple - and subsidized, full-time preschool is available from the day the child turns 1 year old.
Today, Sweden has both a minister and an official ombudsman dealing with gender equality.
Over the past three decades, feminism became "politically correct" in Sweden, noted Maria Abrahamsson, an editorial writer for the conservative Svenska Dagbladet newspaper. "The politics of gender equality have been moving faster and faster."
But for a number of feminists - and for many other Swedes, according to opinion polls earlier in the year - it was not moving fast enough.
Feminist Initiative pointed to several areas where inequality still exists in Sweden, among them the gap between women's and men's salaries. Data from Statistics Sweden, a government office, show that while the gap stabilized over the past two decades, it began widening in the late 1990s. In 2003, women earned on average 84 percent of what men earned, down from 85 percent in 1995.
Likewise, the number of police reports filed for assault by men against women rose 40 percent in the 1990s, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. This, said Feminist Initiative, showed that there still was important work to do.
Gudrun Schyman, the most prominent of the party's co-founders, says it is "a myth" that Sweden is a very equal country. "Even many Swedes think we're practically done, that there's only some litter in the corners that needs to be cleaned up," Schyman, one of the party's three co-spokeswomen, said in an interview in April. "But in real life, things here are actually moving backward."
The problem for Schyman's party, commentators now say, is that while many Swedes find basic issues of equality to be important, Feminist Initiative instead adopted avant-garde ideas that are less attractive to the general public.
"They turned out to be a very narrow party," said Bjorn Elmbrant, a political commentator at Swedish Radio. "The gay-related issues that they are focusing on really aren't that important to most people. I'd say, embellishing only slightly, that this might interest about 800 voters."
Government-funded research on gender, which formerly had broad popular support, was recently called "bizarre" and "crazy" on the opinion pages of Dagens Nyheter, Sweden's leading daily.
Last week, one of the most prominent and controversial founders of Feminist Initiative, Tiina Rosenberg, a professor of gender studies at Stockholm University, announced her withdrawal from the party.
The main reason, she said, was a rightist "campaign" against herself and her research.
"In only a few months, the label feminist has become an epithet," she wrote. "This antifeminist backlash affects us all."
Even the Social Democrats are distancing themselves from one of their own proposals: to put quotas on parental leave that would oblige men to stay home more than they do today (in 2004, women used 81 percent of the paid parental-leave days).
"We are critical of the fact that people don't use parental leave in an equal fashion," Marita Ulvskog, the Social Democrats' party secretary, told Dagens Nyheter recently. "But we think not enough focus has been paid to what the reality outside parental leave looks like."
What comes next for feminism and equality in Sweden is an open question. Some observers believe that the recent wave of criticism and introspection will die down.
But others think that social reforms will start to be rolled back, and that even the belief in equality that has been the pride of many Swedes for years may be in jeopardy.
"Testing times have arrived," said Hirdman, the history professor. "Now we'll see how deeply rooted this really is."
STOCKHOLM As one of the world's most gender-equal countries - a land where 80 percent of the women have jobs, where about half of the members of Parliament are female - does Sweden need a feminist party?
Many people thought so this spring, when a number of high-profile Swedish women began Feministiskt Initiativ, or Feminist Initiative. Polls then showed that almost a quarter of the electorate would consider voting for the party in parliamentary elections next year.
Six months later, however, that backing has imploded as Sweden rethinks the politics of sex.
Feminist Initiative is in disarray after the loss of several founding members who abruptly departed over the radical direction the party was taking. At its recent founding congress, for example, instead of tackling a mainstream platform as planned, the party presented proposals to abolish marriage and create "gender-neutral" names.
Support for feminism took another hit this summer with the airing of a Swedish television documentary called "The Gender War." A wrenching debate was set off by the film, which showed militant feminism to be widespread, reaching into official circles: Ireen von Wachenfeldt, the chairwoman of ROKS, Sweden's largest women's shelter organization, for one, was shown asserting that "men are animals."
Suddenly the belief that politics, business, even private life should be reformed to allow a more equal society - a belief that has permeated Swedish politics for several decades - is being openly questioned. In the latest opinion polls, a meager 1.3 percent of respondents said they would give the feminist party their votes.
"This could be a backlash," said Yvonne Hirdman, a professor of history at Stockholm University, adding that she believed many people were glad.
In the early 1970s, the powerful Social Democratic Party made feminism part of its platform. Since then, gender equality has become an important backdrop to almost all areas of policy - especially family policy.
The Swedish child-care system has grown in both size and scope, with parental leave ever more generous - now 480 days of paid leave per couple - and subsidized, full-time preschool is available from the day the child turns 1 year old.
Today, Sweden has both a minister and an official ombudsman dealing with gender equality.
Over the past three decades, feminism became "politically correct" in Sweden, noted Maria Abrahamsson, an editorial writer for the conservative Svenska Dagbladet newspaper. "The politics of gender equality have been moving faster and faster."
But for a number of feminists - and for many other Swedes, according to opinion polls earlier in the year - it was not moving fast enough.
Feminist Initiative pointed to several areas where inequality still exists in Sweden, among them the gap between women's and men's salaries. Data from Statistics Sweden, a government office, show that while the gap stabilized over the past two decades, it began widening in the late 1990s. In 2003, women earned on average 84 percent of what men earned, down from 85 percent in 1995.
Likewise, the number of police reports filed for assault by men against women rose 40 percent in the 1990s, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. This, said Feminist Initiative, showed that there still was important work to do.
Gudrun Schyman, the most prominent of the party's co-founders, says it is "a myth" that Sweden is a very equal country. "Even many Swedes think we're practically done, that there's only some litter in the corners that needs to be cleaned up," Schyman, one of the party's three co-spokeswomen, said in an interview in April. "But in real life, things here are actually moving backward."
The problem for Schyman's party, commentators now say, is that while many Swedes find basic issues of equality to be important, Feminist Initiative instead adopted avant-garde ideas that are less attractive to the general public.
"They turned out to be a very narrow party," said Bjorn Elmbrant, a political commentator at Swedish Radio. "The gay-related issues that they are focusing on really aren't that important to most people. I'd say, embellishing only slightly, that this might interest about 800 voters."
Government-funded research on gender, which formerly had broad popular support, was recently called "bizarre" and "crazy" on the opinion pages of Dagens Nyheter, Sweden's leading daily.
Last week, one of the most prominent and controversial founders of Feminist Initiative, Tiina Rosenberg, a professor of gender studies at Stockholm University, announced her withdrawal from the party.
The main reason, she said, was a rightist "campaign" against herself and her research.
"In only a few months, the label feminist has become an epithet," she wrote. "This antifeminist backlash affects us all."
Even the Social Democrats are distancing themselves from one of their own proposals: to put quotas on parental leave that would oblige men to stay home more than they do today (in 2004, women used 81 percent of the paid parental-leave days).
"We are critical of the fact that people don't use parental leave in an equal fashion," Marita Ulvskog, the Social Democrats' party secretary, told Dagens Nyheter recently. "But we think not enough focus has been paid to what the reality outside parental leave looks like."
What comes next for feminism and equality in Sweden is an open question. Some observers believe that the recent wave of criticism and introspection will die down.
But others think that social reforms will start to be rolled back, and that even the belief in equality that has been the pride of many Swedes for years may be in jeopardy.
"Testing times have arrived," said Hirdman, the history professor. "Now we'll see how deeply rooted this really is."
STOCKHOLM As one of the world's most gender-equal countries - a land where 80 percent of the women have jobs, where about half of the members of Parliament are female - does Sweden need a feminist party?
Many people thought so this spring, when a number of high-profile Swedish women began Feministiskt Initiativ, or Feminist Initiative. Polls then showed that almost a quarter of the electorate would consider voting for the party in parliamentary elections next year.
Six months later, however, that backing has imploded as Sweden rethinks the politics of sex.
Feminist Initiative is in disarray after the loss of several founding members who abruptly departed over the radical direction the party was taking. At its recent founding congress, for example, instead of tackling a mainstream platform as planned, the party presented proposals to abolish marriage and create "gender-neutral" names.
For the rest of the article: http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/10/20/ ... minism.php
In Sweden, a feminist locomotive stalls on the tracks
As one of the world's most gender-equal countries - a land where 80 percent of the women have jobs, where about half of the members of Parliament are female - does Sweden need a feminist party?
Many people thought so this spring, when a number of high-profile Swedish women began Feministiskt Initiativ, or Feminist Initiative. Polls then showed that almost a quarter of the electorate would consider voting for the party in parliamentary elections next year.
Six months later, however, that backing has imploded as Sweden rethinks the politics of sex.
Feminist Initiative is in disarray after the loss of several founding members who abruptly departed over the radical direction the party was taking. At its recent founding congress, for example, instead of tackling a mainstream platform as planned, the party presented proposals to abolish marriage and create "gender-neutral" names.
Support for feminism took another hit this summer with the airing of a Swedish television documentary called "The Gender War." A wrenching debate was set off by the film, which showed militant feminism to be widespread, reaching into official circles: Ireen von Wachenfeldt, the chairwoman of ROKS, Sweden's largest women's shelter organization, for one, was shown asserting that "men are animals."
Suddenly the belief that politics, business, even private life should be reformed to allow a more equal society - a belief that has permeated Swedish politics for several decades - is being openly questioned. In the latest opinion polls, a meager 1.3 percent of respondents said they would give the feminist party their votes.
"This could be a backlash," said Yvonne Hirdman, a professor of history at Stockholm University, adding that she believed many people were glad.
In the early 1970s, the powerful Social Democratic Party made feminism part of its platform. Since then, gender equality has become an important backdrop to almost all areas of policy - especially family policy.
The Swedish child-care system has grown in both size and scope, with parental leave ever more generous - now 480 days of paid leave per couple - and subsidized, full-time preschool is available from the day the child turns 1 year old.
Today, Sweden has both a minister and an official ombudsman dealing with gender equality.
Over the past three decades, feminism became "politically correct" in Sweden, noted Maria Abrahamsson, an editorial writer for the conservative Svenska Dagbladet newspaper. "The politics of gender equality have been moving faster and faster."
But for a number of feminists - and for many other Swedes, according to opinion polls earlier in the year - it was not moving fast enough.
Feminist Initiative pointed to several areas where inequality still exists in Sweden, among them the gap between women's and men's salaries. Data from Statistics Sweden, a government office, show that while the gap stabilized over the past two decades, it began widening in the late 1990s. In 2003, women earned on average 84 percent of what men earned, down from 85 percent in 1995.
Likewise, the number of police reports filed for assault by men against women rose 40 percent in the 1990s, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. This, said Feminist Initiative, showed that there still was important work to do.
Gudrun Schyman, the most prominent of the party's co-founders, says it is "a myth" that Sweden is a very equal country. "Even many Swedes think we're practically done, that there's only some litter in the corners that needs to be cleaned up," Schyman, one of the party's three co-spokeswomen, said in an interview in April. "But in real life, things here are actually moving backward."
The problem for Schyman's party, commentators now say, is that while many Swedes find basic issues of equality to be important, Feminist Initiative instead adopted avant-garde ideas that are less attractive to the general public.
"They turned out to be a very narrow party," said Bjorn Elmbrant, a political commentator at Swedish Radio. "The gay-related issues that they are focusing on really aren't that important to most people. I'd say, embellishing only slightly, that this might interest about 800 voters."
Government-funded research on gender, which formerly had broad popular support, was recently called "bizarre" and "crazy" on the opinion pages of Dagens Nyheter, Sweden's leading daily.
Last week, one of the most prominent and controversial founders of Feminist Initiative, Tiina Rosenberg, a professor of gender studies at Stockholm University, announced her withdrawal from the party.
The main reason, she said, was a rightist "campaign" against herself and her research.
"In only a few months, the label feminist has become an epithet," she wrote. "This antifeminist backlash affects us all."
Even the Social Democrats are distancing themselves from one of their own proposals: to put quotas on parental leave that would oblige men to stay home more than they do today (in 2004, women used 81 percent of the paid parental-leave days).
"We are critical of the fact that people don't use parental leave in an equal fashion," Marita Ulvskog, the Social Democrats' party secretary, told Dagens Nyheter recently. "But we think not enough focus has been paid to what the reality outside parental leave looks like."
What comes next for feminism and equality in Sweden is an open question. Some observers believe that the recent wave of criticism and introspection will die down.
But others think that social reforms will start to be rolled back, and that even the belief in equality that has been the pride of many Swedes for years may be in jeopardy.
"Testing times have arrived," said Hirdman, the history professor. "Now we'll see how deeply rooted this really is."
STOCKHOLM As one of the world's most gender-equal countries - a land where 80 percent of the women have jobs, where about half of the members of Parliament are female - does Sweden need a feminist party?
Many people thought so this spring, when a number of high-profile Swedish women began Feministiskt Initiativ, or Feminist Initiative. Polls then showed that almost a quarter of the electorate would consider voting for the party in parliamentary elections next year.
Six months later, however, that backing has imploded as Sweden rethinks the politics of sex.
Feminist Initiative is in disarray after the loss of several founding members who abruptly departed over the radical direction the party was taking. At its recent founding congress, for example, instead of tackling a mainstream platform as planned, the party presented proposals to abolish marriage and create "gender-neutral" names.
Support for feminism took another hit this summer with the airing of a Swedish television documentary called "The Gender War." A wrenching debate was set off by the film, which showed militant feminism to be widespread, reaching into official circles: Ireen von Wachenfeldt, the chairwoman of ROKS, Sweden's largest women's shelter organization, for one, was shown asserting that "men are animals."
Suddenly the belief that politics, business, even private life should be reformed to allow a more equal society - a belief that has permeated Swedish politics for several decades - is being openly questioned. In the latest opinion polls, a meager 1.3 percent of respondents said they would give the feminist party their votes.
"This could be a backlash," said Yvonne Hirdman, a professor of history at Stockholm University, adding that she believed many people were glad.
In the early 1970s, the powerful Social Democratic Party made feminism part of its platform. Since then, gender equality has become an important backdrop to almost all areas of policy - especially family policy.
The Swedish child-care system has grown in both size and scope, with parental leave ever more generous - now 480 days of paid leave per couple - and subsidized, full-time preschool is available from the day the child turns 1 year old.
Today, Sweden has both a minister and an official ombudsman dealing with gender equality.
Over the past three decades, feminism became "politically correct" in Sweden, noted Maria Abrahamsson, an editorial writer for the conservative Svenska Dagbladet newspaper. "The politics of gender equality have been moving faster and faster."
But for a number of feminists - and for many other Swedes, according to opinion polls earlier in the year - it was not moving fast enough.
Feminist Initiative pointed to several areas where inequality still exists in Sweden, among them the gap between women's and men's salaries. Data from Statistics Sweden, a government office, show that while the gap stabilized over the past two decades, it began widening in the late 1990s. In 2003, women earned on average 84 percent of what men earned, down from 85 percent in 1995.
Likewise, the number of police reports filed for assault by men against women rose 40 percent in the 1990s, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. This, said Feminist Initiative, showed that there still was important work to do.
Gudrun Schyman, the most prominent of the party's co-founders, says it is "a myth" that Sweden is a very equal country. "Even many Swedes think we're practically done, that there's only some litter in the corners that needs to be cleaned up," Schyman, one of the party's three co-spokeswomen, said in an interview in April. "But in real life, things here are actually moving backward."
The problem for Schyman's party, commentators now say, is that while many Swedes find basic issues of equality to be important, Feminist Initiative instead adopted avant-garde ideas that are less attractive to the general public.
"They turned out to be a very narrow party," said Bjorn Elmbrant, a political commentator at Swedish Radio. "The gay-related issues that they are focusing on really aren't that important to most people. I'd say, embellishing only slightly, that this might interest about 800 voters."
Government-funded research on gender, which formerly had broad popular support, was recently called "bizarre" and "crazy" on the opinion pages of Dagens Nyheter, Sweden's leading daily.
Last week, one of the most prominent and controversial founders of Feminist Initiative, Tiina Rosenberg, a professor of gender studies at Stockholm University, announced her withdrawal from the party.
The main reason, she said, was a rightist "campaign" against herself and her research.
"In only a few months, the label feminist has become an epithet," she wrote. "This antifeminist backlash affects us all."
Even the Social Democrats are distancing themselves from one of their own proposals: to put quotas on parental leave that would oblige men to stay home more than they do today (in 2004, women used 81 percent of the paid parental-leave days).
"We are critical of the fact that people don't use parental leave in an equal fashion," Marita Ulvskog, the Social Democrats' party secretary, told Dagens Nyheter recently. "But we think not enough focus has been paid to what the reality outside parental leave looks like."
What comes next for feminism and equality in Sweden is an open question. Some observers believe that the recent wave of criticism and introspection will die down.
But others think that social reforms will start to be rolled back, and that even the belief in equality that has been the pride of many Swedes for years may be in jeopardy.
"Testing times have arrived," said Hirdman, the history professor. "Now we'll see how deeply rooted this really is."
STOCKHOLM As one of the world's most gender-equal countries - a land where 80 percent of the women have jobs, where about half of the members of Parliament are female - does Sweden need a feminist party?
Many people thought so this spring, when a number of high-profile Swedish women began Feministiskt Initiativ, or Feminist Initiative. Polls then showed that almost a quarter of the electorate would consider voting for the party in parliamentary elections next year.
Six months later, however, that backing has imploded as Sweden rethinks the politics of sex.
Feminist Initiative is in disarray after the loss of several founding members who abruptly departed over the radical direction the party was taking. At its recent founding congress, for example, instead of tackling a mainstream platform as planned, the party presented proposals to abolish marriage and create "gender-neutral" names.
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Following the recent debut performance of 'The Vagina Monologues' in Phnom Penh, that begoateed guru of uber political correctness Dr Weird Beard will be starring in his own one man show 'The Cunt Chronicles: Dr Weird Beard in conversation with himself.'
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Several, actually. Or even people who share the ideas but don't use the title (it doesn't have a nice ring to it). I agree with many of the issues too. However like every movement it has it's pitfalls, a certain contigent deemed "victim masculism" (unfortunately a vocal and arguably predominant one) blames everything from feminism to the medical world for the ills men face instead of taking the reigns to reconstruct gender roles - the cause of most of their complaints - to overcome them as best they can as women have and are, or even like the Civil Rights movement did. It's basically blaming other groups for not being content with their subordination and taking steps - even risking their lives - to gain equality while men were fine with the way things were and never changed. Apparently that is everybody else's fault.Masculists, a movement with a total membership of what? Two? Zero?
People who don't take responsibility and never fight for their rights are annoying. And yes, that includes people who call themselves feminists and do the same.
Wendy O'Williams must be sighing in her grave.fopro wrote:A once knew a Sharky girl who could do vagina monologues, amongst other things. It was actually quite a sight.