Just curious what others may think.
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What would happen if Hun Sen loses this election
Sam Rainsy would be installed as prime minister, Mu Sochua as deputy. He would of course work remotely from Paris where he's got shit to do leaving Sochua to run things here (no change on that front). Corruption would come to an immediate end and poverty would be banished. Cambodia would win the war with Vietnam annexing Kampuchea Kraum and establishing a huge naval base on the South China Sea announcing its coming as a regional power not to be messed with.
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It's a very good question. In the last few days I've been picking up a very strong feeling of a huge sway towards the opposition. I think it's very possible that the majority across the country will vote HE out.
The doesn't mean he will lose the election. I'm seeing similarities with 1993; then HE had ruled for so long that he couldn't contemplate voters would choose someone else. When it happened he simply wouldn't accept the democratic process. This time he won't wait for the votes to be counted; there will be massive vote-rigging to ensure he 'wins'. The international (i.e. western) community will make big noises before realising that given their response to Egypt their hypocrisy is embarrassing, and there will be mass demonstrations which will affect business for a while.
The alternative is very scary. Let's say HE loses by a massive landslide and has to concede. We'll have Egypt redux. The whole state apparatus will obstruct the new government and HE will make damn sure it fails. When he threatened civil war it was no empty threat.
Let me be clear - in the interests of fairness, the country deserves a change. So many Khmers are telling me how much they hate the corruption, not only victims of landgrabbing and nepotism but also tuktuk drivers and business people who have done very well for themselves over the last 5 years. However, for the sake of stability the CPP needs to maintain power for now. However things might appear on the surface after the election, it must act as a massive wake-up call to the ruling party. They must realise that if they don't make huge changes themselves in the next few years, they'll disappear for good 5 years from now.
One more thing that I find very interesting is that the vast majority of westerners I've spoken to (and read) want to CPP to stay in charge; the vast majority of Khmers I've spoken to want change.
The doesn't mean he will lose the election. I'm seeing similarities with 1993; then HE had ruled for so long that he couldn't contemplate voters would choose someone else. When it happened he simply wouldn't accept the democratic process. This time he won't wait for the votes to be counted; there will be massive vote-rigging to ensure he 'wins'. The international (i.e. western) community will make big noises before realising that given their response to Egypt their hypocrisy is embarrassing, and there will be mass demonstrations which will affect business for a while.
The alternative is very scary. Let's say HE loses by a massive landslide and has to concede. We'll have Egypt redux. The whole state apparatus will obstruct the new government and HE will make damn sure it fails. When he threatened civil war it was no empty threat.
Let me be clear - in the interests of fairness, the country deserves a change. So many Khmers are telling me how much they hate the corruption, not only victims of landgrabbing and nepotism but also tuktuk drivers and business people who have done very well for themselves over the last 5 years. However, for the sake of stability the CPP needs to maintain power for now. However things might appear on the surface after the election, it must act as a massive wake-up call to the ruling party. They must realise that if they don't make huge changes themselves in the next few years, they'll disappear for good 5 years from now.
One more thing that I find very interesting is that the vast majority of westerners I've spoken to (and read) want to CPP to stay in charge; the vast majority of Khmers I've spoken to want change.
I came, I argued, I'm out
Hypothetical debate.vladimir wrote:It will snow.
What have you been smoking?
As in all politics, it will be great until a few weeks after election time.
Sorry Vladimir hypothetical should've been on the OP title because let's face it winning this election for the Rescue Party would be like the Cambodian football team winning the World Cup.vladimir wrote:@ very dull razor:
No shit, Sherlock.
Would never have guessed.
But it would be interesting to hear different people's opinions as to what would happen if he did.
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It's Rainsy season at the moment Vladimir so by some miracle it may turn to sleet then snow.vladimir wrote:It will snow.
He will never concede. Large scale civil uprising I think is unlikely, I don't think the general populace the will or desire for more bloodshed.What would happen if HE loses this election
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better to use the word would here( in my opinion), otherwise it sounds like you think CNRP will win , which would mean you're a few sandwiches short of a picnicDad wrote:He will never concede. Large scale civil uprising I think is unlikely, I don't think the general populace the will or desire for more bloodshed.What would happen if HE loses this election
k440, something to do when you're pissed.
Regarding the Vietnamese which everyone hates, I am curious, are they talking about those poor "country bumpkins" that sit all day in their hammocks with no ID or anything, or are we talking about anyone that has any sort of connection to Vietnamese heritage on a genealogical record? My in laws are all technically Khmer but they are of Vietnamese ancestry. They all have Cambodian passports, IDs, etc, and some of them were even born in Phnom Penh.Bosco wrote:Cambodia would win the war with Vietnam annexing Kampuchea Kraum and establishing a huge naval base on the South China Sea announcing its coming as a regional power not to be messed with.
I'm genuinely interested in what would happen to them and people in similar situations (I see Vietnamese places everywhere, businesses, etc.). Would they all get kicked out and their land and assets taken from them? My family might be one of the very few exceptions where everything they have they worked for and paid for with money from their labors, and not from simply trying to take. I've been their accountant for years, so I can stake my reputation on the line without hesitation to back them up.
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