How, Why Do People Get Set Up in Cambo?
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How, Why Do People Get Set Up in Cambo?
Not sure if this thread belongs in Speakeasy or Questions and Answers but it feels more like a Speakeasy subject.
In the threads about legal cases we read some of the defendants insist they were set up. Of course this might be a self-serving statement by the guilty, but in some cases it might be true.
For what reasons would a normal, quiet, law-abiding expat be set up? Doing what would get you set up? Being too successful at a business here, as happens in Thailand?
Assuming one is not doing anything illegal in the first place, why would anybody want to set you up?
Because they saw they had a lot of money? Because they bragged about it to the wrong people, or drove a Lexus, or lived in the penthouse of a Casino hotel.....? What if they did not have money?
Would you be set up by other expats? Has anyone ever heard of this?
In the threads about legal cases we read some of the defendants insist they were set up. Of course this might be a self-serving statement by the guilty, but in some cases it might be true.
For what reasons would a normal, quiet, law-abiding expat be set up? Doing what would get you set up? Being too successful at a business here, as happens in Thailand?
Assuming one is not doing anything illegal in the first place, why would anybody want to set you up?
Because they saw they had a lot of money? Because they bragged about it to the wrong people, or drove a Lexus, or lived in the penthouse of a Casino hotel.....? What if they did not have money?
Would you be set up by other expats? Has anyone ever heard of this?
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As Jacked Camry has said several times recently it is hard to think of a single set up of anyone who wasn't close to or involved in a less than normal lifestyle. Why would anyone do it to someone just living a regular life? Go to work. Go out and behave. Don't be a prick and bad mouth locals directly or indirectly. Don't play with little girls at rubbish tips. Don't have five 14 year old maids living in your house to give you massages. Don't be a prick. Don't take pity on street kids and invite them into your shower. Be respectful etc etc and you will not be set up.
Good topic btw.
Good topic btw.
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Well... Anything is possible here due to the great divide between wealthy interloping foreigners, and the local folk... Mr. Alan Clarke is right... You have to be civil and try to cultivate equanimous relations...
I know a very nice man from Kentucky who used to live in Siem Riep. He had worked at a language school for awhile, then left to do some private teaching on his own... The owner of the school actually sued him for "stealing his students..."
The question should be: "Why wouldn't the locals wanna set us up?"
I know a very nice man from Kentucky who used to live in Siem Riep. He had worked at a language school for awhile, then left to do some private teaching on his own... The owner of the school actually sued him for "stealing his students..."
The question should be: "Why wouldn't the locals wanna set us up?"
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I've read about dudes in the Philippines being set up, they bring a young woman back to their room, she tells the guy "my friend is coming." He thinks it's his lucky day. There's a knock, he opens the door and the underage friend enters and immediately goes into bathroom and gets into the shower and the cops coincidentally show up and he gets arrested for underage naked girlie stuff. I've read enough of those reports online that I believe they are true.
As far as I know, Khmers don't do this.
As far as I know, Khmers don't do this.
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So that means you haven't been caught yet with any of your girlie friends, hehe...? Wish I was brave enough to do that, too, Gavin!gavinmac wrote:....There's a knock, he opens the door and the underage friend enters and immediately goes into bathroom and gets into the shower and the cops coincidentally show up and he gets arrested for underage naked girlie stuff.....As far as I know, Khmers don't do this.
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gavinmac wrote:I've read about dudes in the Philippines being set up, they bring a young woman back to their room, she tells the guy "my friend is coming." He thinks it's his lucky day. There's a knock, he opens the door and the underage friend enters and immediately goes into bathroom and gets into the shower and the cops coincidentally show up and he gets arrested for underage naked girlie stuff. I've read enough of those reports online that I believe they are true.
As far as I know, Khmers don't do this.
Perhaps I should have added 'don't go out whoring and bringing hookers to your home and instead try to figure out how to have a normal relationship' to my list of dos and don'ts, just for gavinmac's benefit.
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Cops once blamed me for an accident that I not only wasn't involved in, but wasn't even driving a vehicle. Was on the back of a motodup, saw the accident happen a couple hundred meters ahead of us (near the Thai embassy.) When we got to it I (stupidly) got off the motodup and tried to render assistance. Cops arrived 5 or 10 minutes later. The officer walked up to me as I was kneeling over one of the victims on the ground and said something like, "You cause this. You driving too fast. I saw you." I was able to escape the situation mostly because a bunch of bystanders vouched for me and got between me and the cops. If it weren't for those bystanders and the cops had gotten ahold of me, I'd have been screwed. It would have been my word against multiple cops, all of whom saw me speeding and cause the accident.
How do they do it? Look for an opportunity, point a finger, make a claim, get support from the other 'authorities' around them.
Why would they do that? Money, glory, kicks, but mostly money.
The lesson? Keep your head low and don't engage in certain normal behaviors (like rendering assistance to accident victims) as it may leave you vulnerable to the corrupt legal system here.
The system is corrupt from bottom to top and right to the core. Unless you have independent and direct information about whatever thing the authorities say someone has done, you really have no idea what actually happened, if anything at all.
How do they do it? Look for an opportunity, point a finger, make a claim, get support from the other 'authorities' around them.
Why would they do that? Money, glory, kicks, but mostly money.
The lesson? Keep your head low and don't engage in certain normal behaviors (like rendering assistance to accident victims) as it may leave you vulnerable to the corrupt legal system here.
The system is corrupt from bottom to top and right to the core. Unless you have independent and direct information about whatever thing the authorities say someone has done, you really have no idea what actually happened, if anything at all.
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^^^^
Funny you should say that as i always remember walking up the road towards the town and noticing a khmer couple laying in the main road after an accident and the motorbike was in the middle of the road so i thought...well might as well pick it up and wheel it to the side of the road as i'm here and they are bloodied and hurt, so i did so. Just as i had got it to the pavement the lady owner shoves me in the chest off the bike and a split second later a brown shirt had appeared and stuck his boot under the front wheel of the bike and gave me the dirtiest look i have seen from a khmer here. So i was standing there mouth slightly agape thinking wtf is going on here then, but thought it best to just not ask any questions and so carried on up the road.
Still not sure what they were thinking. Maybe it was the fact that i drew attention to the copper that pissed of the lady?? Maybe it was a pride thing - the barang helping a khmer? Maybe they thought i was trying to nick the bike? Dunno.
But like you say, maybe trying to help is not always simple over here, and you should consider things carefully before engaging??
Funny you should say that as i always remember walking up the road towards the town and noticing a khmer couple laying in the main road after an accident and the motorbike was in the middle of the road so i thought...well might as well pick it up and wheel it to the side of the road as i'm here and they are bloodied and hurt, so i did so. Just as i had got it to the pavement the lady owner shoves me in the chest off the bike and a split second later a brown shirt had appeared and stuck his boot under the front wheel of the bike and gave me the dirtiest look i have seen from a khmer here. So i was standing there mouth slightly agape thinking wtf is going on here then, but thought it best to just not ask any questions and so carried on up the road.
Still not sure what they were thinking. Maybe it was the fact that i drew attention to the copper that pissed of the lady?? Maybe it was a pride thing - the barang helping a khmer? Maybe they thought i was trying to nick the bike? Dunno.
But like you say, maybe trying to help is not always simple over here, and you should consider things carefully before engaging??
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Definitely sounds like they thought you were trying to steal the bike.spitthedog wrote:^^^^
Funny you should say that as i always remember walking up the road towards the town and noticing a khmer couple laying in the main road after an accident and the motorbike was in the middle of the road so i thought...well might as well pick it up and wheel it to the side of the road as i'm here and they are bloodied and hurt, so i did so. Just as i had got it to the pavement the lady owner shoves me in the chest off the bike and a split second later a brown shirt had appeared and stuck his boot under the front wheel of the bike and gave me the dirtiest look i have seen from a khmer here. So i was standing there mouth slightly agape thinking wtf is going on here then, but thought it best to just not ask any questions and so carried on up the road.
Still not sure what they were thinking. Maybe it was the fact that i drew attention to the copper that pissed of the lady?? Maybe it was a pride thing - the barang helping a khmer? Maybe they thought i was trying to nick the bike? Dunno.
But like you say, maybe trying to help is not always simple over here, and you should consider things carefully before engaging??
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Miguelito wrote:Definitely sounds like they thought you were trying to steal the bike.spitthedog wrote:^^^^
Funny you should say that as i always remember walking up the road towards the town and noticing a khmer couple laying in the main road after an accident and the motorbike was in the middle of the road so i thought...well might as well pick it up and wheel it to the side of the road as i'm here and they are bloodied and hurt, so i did so. Just as i had got it to the pavement the lady owner shoves me in the chest off the bike and a split second later a brown shirt had appeared and stuck his boot under the front wheel of the bike and gave me the dirtiest look i have seen from a khmer here. So i was standing there mouth slightly agape thinking wtf is going on here then, but thought it best to just not ask any questions and so carried on up the road.
Still not sure what they were thinking. Maybe it was the fact that i drew attention to the copper that pissed of the lady?? Maybe it was a pride thing - the barang helping a khmer? Maybe they thought i was trying to nick the bike? Dunno.
But like you say, maybe trying to help is not always simple over here, and you should consider things carefully before engaging??
Yes thanks. I guess i asked for that.
This is the thread for K440 members nicking stuff though ;
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... =9&t=50227
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Were you fluent in Khmer at this time. Forgive me, but I thought you were currently fluent.LTO wrote:Cops once blamed me for an accident that I not only wasn't involved in, but wasn't even driving a vehicle. Was on the back of a motodup, saw the accident happen a couple hundred meters ahead of us (near the Thai embassy.) When we got to it I (stupidly) got off the motodup and tried to render assistance. Cops arrived 5 or 10 minutes later. The officer walked up to me as I was kneeling over one of the victims on the ground and said something like, "You cause this. You driving too fast. I saw you." I was able to escape the situation mostly because a bunch of bystanders vouched for me and got between me and the cops. If it weren't for those bystanders and the cops had gotten ahold of me, I'd have been screwed. It would have been my word against multiple cops, all of whom saw me speeding and cause the accident.
How do they do it? Look for an opportunity, point a finger, make a claim, get support from the other 'authorities' around them.
Why would they do that? Money, glory, kicks, but mostly money.
The lesson? Keep your head low and don't engage in certain normal behaviors (like rendering assistance to accident victims) as it may leave you vulnerable to the corrupt legal system here.
The system is corrupt from bottom to top and right to the core. Unless you have independent and direct information about whatever thing the authorities say someone has done, you really have no idea what actually happened, if anything at all.
Anyone who doesn't like Capitalism is a pathetic loser. God bless the USA and no place else.
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My father in law is a mid ranking anti trafficking cop. (human, not vice). He worked his way up from being a farmer. Was boy in blue jump out at you, take bribe, fuck u over traffic police at one point. He talked about it once only with me and I had to dig a bit into this man's, my family member's psyche. I asked him gingerly about the bribes and stuff. He looked at me and thought and said how much he hated that part of the job. He said he had to pay for my fiancee's University as well as her younger bro and sister, all very smart. How do u hate on that, I suppose. He said he used to be so nervous at night about his job he couldn't sleep well.LTO wrote:Cops once blamed me for an accident that I not only wasn't involved in, but wasn't even driving a vehicle. Was on the back of a motodup, saw the accident happen a couple hundred meters ahead of us (near the Thai embassy.) When we got to it I (stupidly) got off the motodup and tried to render assistance. Cops arrived 5 or 10 minutes later. The officer walked up to me as I was kneeling over one of the victims on the ground and said something like, "You cause this. You driving too fast. I saw you." I was able to escape the situation mostly because a bunch of bystanders vouched for me and got between me and the cops. If it weren't for those bystanders and the cops had gotten ahold of me, I'd have been screwed. It would have been my word against multiple cops, all of whom saw me speeding and cause the accident.
How do they do it? Look for an opportunity, point a finger, make a claim, get support from the other 'authorities' around them.
Why would they do that? Money, glory, kicks, but mostly money.
The lesson? Keep your head low and don't engage in certain normal behaviors (like rendering assistance to accident victims) as it may leave you vulnerable to the corrupt legal system here.
The system is corrupt from bottom to top and right to the core. Unless you have independent and direct information about whatever thing the authorities say someone has done, you really have no idea what actually happened, if anything at all.
Now he goes on raids and rounds up viet girls who are indeed underage. Thumbs up for that. Plus they gave him a nice looking pistol. Very calm and decent man. Doesn't smoke nor drink. Most people I see are cunts, he's a good guy..
Moral, some have to bribe u and be corrupt assholes because their salary is like 70$ per month. They aren't all lazy, beer swelling pigs. ..... Just most.
Anyone who doesn't like Capitalism is a pathetic loser. God bless the USA and no place else.
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