Don-Pierre de Plume wrote:tuk-tukfish wrote:bipolar bear wrote:He is an incurable, twisted psychopath who has to be prevented from re-offending by taking away all opportunity to do so. Since the justice system won't countenance snuffing him, then he has to be jailed forever and never be permitted internet access for any purpose.
Whilst knowingly entering the vacuum that is death by "Pedo defence" on an open forum I'm going to suggest that this gentleman/dude/cunt/whatever is suffering not from insanity or even criminality (yes, diddling kids IS illegal) but more from his, possibly, pre-wired sexuality. With the golden age of Pederasty far gone (we've all heard of ancient Rome/Greece, yeah?, plus an apparent revival in 1970's Britain), I fail to see how THIS crime seems to take precedent above all other. We live in a country that throws people from their land, supports drug distribution networks, ignores cries of help from it's most needy citizens, lax as fuck when it comes to hurling acid in someones face & yet find some white dude with half a finger up a child's nether-regions ultimately obnoxious? Sounds like homo-bashing in the 60's a bit doesn't it?
These people aren't sick, they are who they are. Which brings me to my next point:
For all the Keyboard warriors out there, who REALLY want to "kill" a child abuser; come to Melbourne, Australia and I'll happily bring you to the front lawn of the domicile of the man who once abused me. You'll be provided with a .22 and itinerary of his comings and goings. Once peering down the sights you're legs will quiver and lips tremble as you desperately attempt to justify your soon-to-be unthinkable action. I know I did.
I have to agree with you, they cannot be 'cured' just like sexual preferences cannot be changed. Well, I have never heard of such a case where a gay or lesbian person became straight. Self-control is a different matter.
All 'normal' men are attracted to females. The age boundaries are governed by human decency, respect and law.
Anyone who cannot or will not respect those boundaries should be removed from society.
Interesting claim, especially in its possible logical consequences.
On one important line of argument, part of the reason (other than it might be true) that it has been claimed that gays are "born that way" (the whole 'gay gene' argument) is because, if it is in the genes, if they are "born that way" and thus have no choice in the matter, they cannot be held to blame for it, especially legally. It would be like holding somebody legally (or morally) responsible for being born with one leg, or with brown eyes, or with schizophrenia. Hence, it is unfair, and doesn't even really make legal or moral sense to blame a person for being gay, let alone have laws against it. Now some anti-gay advocates might then argue that even if they are "born that way" they do not have to act on it, thus people can and should still be held legally and morally responsible for gay acts (gay sex, etc.) The other side often retorts that as we are sexual beings it is too much to expect of people to deny and repress their sexuality - who they are - whether hetero or homo. Though some people may be strong enough, most are unable to repress who they are. Thus it is still unfair to hold a gay person legally accountable for gay acts. So where does this leave us if pedos are in fact 'born that way' as is being contended here. I imagine we don't want it to go down the same path as the gay rights argument - that just because they are born that way and their sexuality cannot be repressed it shouldn't be against the law or considered a moral failing. Sure, we still don't want pedos acting on their urges, and when they do, we understandably want to "remove (them) from society" to protect others. But even if for sake of society we are still willing to remove them from society for their acts, does it make sense to hold them legally responsible, or even to blame them for what they have done? Isn't it still like blaming somebody for being born with one leg and walking with a limp, or in this case, born with a congenital mental illness who hurts people as a result? Is there a moral ground for wishing prison and torture and death on them?