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Post by brownexile » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:35 pm

Really, the best dressed Cambodians I've seen so far are the police and hotel staff. Everyone else is dressed so shabbily in worn out clothes.
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Post by finy » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:51 pm

Why do people even wear clothes in India with 99% humidity.

I used to lose 10lbs every time I went for a shit, and that was just from sweating.
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Post by offshoresports » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:53 am

I found the people in Sihanoukville to be friendly. I think the market might be one of the least friendly I have been too in Cambodia, but other than that people are pretty normal down there. The expats are a little standoffish, but after reading Khmer440 and the other blog, that makes sense.

Personally, I like the laid back atmosphere and beaches in Sihanoukville. I never found myself in any danger or in the middle of a Russian turf war. The biggest turn offs were the guys stealing purses, the electricity/internet outages, lack of good places to eat, and seeing people throw trash on the beach like it's a sport.

Phnom Penh, has amazing midcentury architecture, tons of places to eat, more women, nicer places to live, an airport, better shopping, great central location to travel throughout Cambodia and the expats are a tad friendlier there. But, no beaches and it's a tad more hectic.

I like both.
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Post by content » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:12 am

brownexile wrote:The people so far have been super friendly. Random kids said hello to me. The level of spoken English and overall intelligence seems to be a notch above Thailand. Too bad that most people seem to be extremely poor. Also, why is everyone so sad with empty looks on their faces? And dressed so simply, almost shabby. Really seems like a country in collective despair and mourning.
The people dressed it rags are poor. If they could they would spend the money the make on clothes, but food is more important. This has been a low financial year for most of the businesses dealing with tourists, contrary to government statements.
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Post by spitthedog » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:23 am

Hello Pehnsters,

In 2008 the highly respected National Geographic voted Phnom Penh the ''second worst'' city in the world. Given the reasons given for this do you think their opinion has changed for the better?

''According to the iconic magazine, the charm of Phnom Penh has been "lost to uncontrolled urban growth and the outright greed of land speculation", one of the judges said, adding it was a "very sad story" its astute colonial urban planning had now all but disappeared''
http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2008/10/ph ... ty-in.html


On the plus side at least you can get good fish & chips with mushy peas these days though...
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Post by Jamie_Lambo » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:24 pm

spitthedog wrote:Hello Pehnsters,

In 2008 the highly respected National Geographic voted Phnom Penh the ''second worst'' city in the world. Given the reasons given for this do you think their opinion has changed for the better?

''According to the iconic magazine, the charm of Phnom Penh has been "lost to uncontrolled urban growth and the outright greed of land speculation", one of the judges said, adding it was a "very sad story" its astute colonial urban planning had now all but disappeared''
http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2008/10/ph ... ty-in.html


On the plus side at least you can get good fish & chips with mushy peas these days though...
+1 for Pig Penh
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Post by ken svay » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:52 pm

The scruffy Khmers are dirt poor, the Thai are middle class by comparison.the wealth has actually trickled down in Thailand but then it was always a rich country. The Vietnam War bought lots of money and infrastructure and the agriculture and food processing industries are massive. Food processing off the back of slaves though, just like western countries.
The Vietnam war and it's aftermath bought nothing but death and poverty for most Khmers. As for Phnom Penh it's still one of the great little cities of the world despite the drawbacks.
Snooky is fun for a while but the long very rainy wet season, the power cuts and the petty crime can get one down.
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Post by finy » Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:22 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
spitthedog wrote:Hello Pehnsters,

In 2008 the highly respected National Geographic voted Phnom Penh the ''second worst'' city in the world. Given the reasons given for this do you think their opinion has changed for the better?

''According to the iconic magazine, the charm of Phnom Penh has been "lost to uncontrolled urban growth and the outright greed of land speculation", one of the judges said, adding it was a "very sad story" its astute colonial urban planning had now all but disappeared''
http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2008/10/ph ... ty-in.html


On the plus side at least you can get good fish & chips with mushy peas these days though...
+1 for Pig Penh
Do the people who like Pig Pehn think they would choose Bangkok if visa process was the same.

What do people like about it compared to BKK/KL etc?

It has pretty good outdoor gym equipment, so I might spend a while there in future, but I always thought it was a dirty maze.
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Post by LTO » Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:35 pm

finy wrote:Do the people who like Pig Pehn think they would choose Bangkok if visa process was the same.
In a heartbeat.

I'd also choose it over all of NatGeo's 'best cities.' We do not share the same criteria for 'best' and 'worst.'
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Post by Jamie_Lambo » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:53 pm

finy wrote:
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
spitthedog wrote:Hello Pehnsters,

In 2008 the highly respected National Geographic voted Phnom Penh the ''second worst'' city in the world. Given the reasons given for this do you think their opinion has changed for the better?

''According to the iconic magazine, the charm of Phnom Penh has been "lost to uncontrolled urban growth and the outright greed of land speculation", one of the judges said, adding it was a "very sad story" its astute colonial urban planning had now all but disappeared''
http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2008/10/ph ... ty-in.html


On the plus side at least you can get good fish & chips with mushy peas these days though...
+1 for Pig Penh
Do the people who like Pig Pehn think they would choose Bangkok if visa process was the same.

What do people like about it compared to BKK/KL etc?

It has pretty good outdoor gym equipment, so I might spend a while there in future, but I always thought it was a dirty maze.[/quote

as much as i hate Bangkok and how much i love Cambodia, if i only had the choice of which place to live BKK or PP i would probably choose BKK, with Bangkok a couple of hours in either direction i could be in Hua Hin or Pattaya rather than the 4-5hour trip to Sihanoukville
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Post by comfortablynumb » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:20 pm

Cambodia is much better .

Thailand is only good for old has been pros\ cougars
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Post by Felgerkarb » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:37 pm

I hate Thais, so no way.

/scowls across the border at the bloody Siem....
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Post by finy » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:18 pm

I guess they both have their positives and negatives.

Think the travel thing is right about BKK though. Cambodia needs new buses and it would make things a thousand times more motivating to travel.
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Post by Lucky Lucan » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:57 am

finy wrote:Why do people even wear clothes in India with 99% humidity.
Why do you keep posting such inane, retarded drivel?
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