Maybe something about closing the barn door after the squirrel has already bolted.Stramash wrote:I think this translates into all the boats everywhere are cancelled. Not sure where the squirrels fit into the story though...
Breaking News: Ferry Capsized off Koh Rong Samloem
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Roy (a former USA warden for SHV and long time resident) was saved by his beers ice box when the German custom made speed catamaran boat he was on, sank a mile or two from koh thmeiMarvin wrote:I hope everyone onboard has survived regardless of the circumstances. Personally (touch wood) I have never been in a sinking/overboard situation as yet...However there is a big misconception that life jackets or personal flotation devices (PFDs) will save your arse. It all depends on the rating of the PFD. Some are for smooth or partially smooth waters and some are for the open ocean. If the PFD is a cheap, shitty one like those typically used throughout most of the third world...you are in trouble. The issue is, it won't hold your head out of the water in wind chop or any kind of sea. And you will quickly be overcome by salt water aspiration and drown, regardless of whether you can swim or not.
Even the best PFDs available don't always work. I was thrown off a vessel whilst working on a dredging project in Australia a few years back. I landed between a tug boat and a Dutch dredging vessel (Almahar...Google it) at night wearing a self-inflating PFD. Fortunately for me it didn't deploy because I had nowhere to surface (I would've been crushed) and so was able to swim/keel-haul myself about 20 meters on a grabbed breath to the other side of the dredge. If the PFD had done what it was designed to do Lara Apsara would now be a free agent...
Actualy a thread that was advertising this boat for sale before this event was posted here and so was Roy in some other threads.
What tragedy? The last report clearly stated all were safe and accounted for. Get a grip fellaLaudJohn wrote:Nice to see you focusing on the important details of a reported tragedy.epidemiks wrote:
The koh/kaoh spelling difference annoys me. Why are there so many examples of different spelling for official names using the same Khmer word?
Eg. ខេត្ត កោះ កុង / ស្រុក កោះ កុង Koh Kong Province / Kaoh Kong District
I read the other day that refugees fleeing the Middle East are sold life jackets containing hay and bubble wrap. Can some Khmer scholar tell us tne meaning of saleum/ sanleum/ samleum? Just phoned a friend, he says it means a view, or a view so far.
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Well they were being sold inflatables and life jackets from a French consulate worker in Bodrum last summerken svay wrote:I read the other day that refugees fleeing the Middle East are sold life jackets containing hay and bubble wrap.
Many have seen this coming and warned of it and Sihanoukville could be expecting a tragedy of far greater proportions if Speed Ferry operators don't start acting more responsibly.
See here: http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/16092/ ... s-at-risk/
The city's most prominent and widely-used operator should also, in my opinion, answer as to why they continue to pack up to 85 SPEED FERRY passengers onto small converted fishing boats (not the big supply boats) with 8-10 life-jackets during bad sea conditions when they have over-booked the Speed Ferry. It's a tragedy waiting to happen.
See here: http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/18760/ ... ry-fiasco/
Between the widely-documented thieving, drug-dealing and raping tuk-tuk drivers, night bus drivers that rob you, scam you, assault you or flip your vehicle over while you're sleeping, motodup drivers who drunkenly attack and/or rob you and irresponsible ferry owners who allow capsizes to happen... one begins to wonder what transport in SHV can be reasonably considered "safe" right now.
See here: http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/16092/ ... s-at-risk/
The city's most prominent and widely-used operator should also, in my opinion, answer as to why they continue to pack up to 85 SPEED FERRY passengers onto small converted fishing boats (not the big supply boats) with 8-10 life-jackets during bad sea conditions when they have over-booked the Speed Ferry. It's a tragedy waiting to happen.
See here: http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/18760/ ... ry-fiasco/
Between the widely-documented thieving, drug-dealing and raping tuk-tuk drivers, night bus drivers that rob you, scam you, assault you or flip your vehicle over while you're sleeping, motodup drivers who drunkenly attack and/or rob you and irresponsible ferry owners who allow capsizes to happen... one begins to wonder what transport in SHV can be reasonably considered "safe" right now.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SHITSVILLElaujack wrote:
thieving, drug-dealing and raping tuk-tuk drivers, night bus drivers that rob you, scam you, assault you or flip your vehicle over while you're sleeping, motodup drivers who drunkenly attack and/or rob you and irresponsible ferry owners who allow capsizes to happen...
SOOOOOOO much going for it !!!
Rated R for Ricecakes
I am terrified every time I set foot in the place, it's a jungle out there.
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One thing about Cambodia is that your safety is largely in your hands. Not much you can do about what you don't know, like a poorly maintained boat. But if they are trying to heard you onto an over-capacity boat with limited safety equipment, don't get on. Walk away. I've done it. I think I may have scared a few other people into getting off as well.laujack wrote:The city's most prominent and widely-used operator should also, in my opinion, answer as to why they continue to pack up to 85 SPEED FERRY passengers onto small converted fishing boats (not the big supply boats) with 8-10 life-jackets during bad sea conditions when they have over-booked the Speed Ferry. It's a tragedy waiting to happen.
??laujack wrote:...flip your vehicle over while you're sleeping...
Totally agree. I was just in that lovely beach town and my first thought on seeing all the speedboat adverts was that if they're anything like the buses, they'll be overbooked and driven erratically. Therefore I did not go on one.LTO wrote: One thing about Cambodia is that your safety is largely in your hands. Not much you can do about what you don't know, like a poorly maintained boat. But if they are trying to heard you onto an over-capacity boat with limited safety equipment, don't get on. Walk away. I've done it. I think I may have scared a few other people into getting off as well.
Mind you, I did take a bus back to Phnom Penh that took only 4 hours, with heavy traffic
My Khmer friend just sent me the Wiki link. Sanleoum means drowsiness or far out and hard to discern. I think the name comes from the latter meaning.
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