Let me guess where you re from Al. Uhmerikay ?alanclarke72 wrote: A minor developed country at the bottom of the world.
Re-located refugees from Australia
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and your source is?...other than your esteemed opinion....LaudJohn wrote:They are not really genuine refugees
appear to who? try checking the statistics...It would appear that most are economic migrants
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The fact that three of the five have decided to go home suggests they are economic migrants looking for a better life - not that there's anything wrong with that. If they were genuine refugees fleeing wars and oppression in their home countries, they wouldn't be going back to those home countries now. You can't have it both ways.badboybubby wrote:and your source is?...other than your esteemed opinion....LaudJohn wrote:They are not really genuine refugees
appear to who? try checking the statistics...It would appear that most are economic migrants
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i didn't take LJ's comments to be referring to the limited cambodian sample rather to asylum seekers generally coming to australia...alanclarke72 wrote:The fact that three of the five have decided to go home suggests they are economic migrants looking for a better life - not that there's anything wrong with that. If they were genuine refugees fleeing wars and oppression in their home countries, they wouldn't be going back to those home countries now. You can't have it both ways.badboybubby wrote:and your source is?...other than your esteemed opinion....LaudJohn wrote:They are not really genuine refugees
appear to who? try checking the statistics...It would appear that most are economic migrants
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The majority of Indonesians are Muslims, but they are Sunni Muslims. Not all asylum seekers are Sunni. There is a history of persecution of Shia, Ahmadiyya and other non-Sunni Muslims in Indonesia. This has happened as recently as January 2016.LaudJohn wrote: When these mostly Muslim refugees are in Indonesia or Malaysia (both Muslim countries) they are not in fear for their lives and they are in a country with a far more similar culture for them than Australia.
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vladimir wrote:You're also ignoring the glaringly obvious fact that the sample you are referring to comprises only 5 people. Five. But then you draw general conclusions about ALL refugees..:
LTO wrote:And yet 3 out of 5 of the admittedly small sample of them we have here chose to go back home when they ended up in Cambodia rather than Australia. That would seem on the surface to be evidence that most (at least of this group) were not 'genuine refugees.'
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Yes, you mention it, but then go on to extrapolate general truths from it.
I know not all muslims are terrorists, BUT...
You take an incident involving 3 people, none of whom you know basically anything about, and support their opponents, who have shown the world time and time again what liars they are.
One has to admit that these 5 people were the dumbest of the crew at the camps, no one else would listen to the lies or could not see through them. The mere fact that AUS represented Cambodia as a developed country with good healthcare, PLUS the fact they had to pay such a huge sum to make the deal...what else do you need to realise teh whole thing stank, Mugabe's involvement?
But hey, let's not listen to vlad, let's ask UNHCR what their view is.
I know not all muslims are terrorists, BUT...
You take an incident involving 3 people, none of whom you know basically anything about, and support their opponents, who have shown the world time and time again what liars they are.
One has to admit that these 5 people were the dumbest of the crew at the camps, no one else would listen to the lies or could not see through them. The mere fact that AUS represented Cambodia as a developed country with good healthcare, PLUS the fact they had to pay such a huge sum to make the deal...what else do you need to realise teh whole thing stank, Mugabe's involvement?
But hey, let's not listen to vlad, let's ask UNHCR what their view is.
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Saudi Arabia's a prominent member of that club , shall we ask them ?vladimir wrote: But hey, let's not listen to vlad, let's ask UNHCR what their view is.
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Hitler was a member of the human race. It doesn't mean we are all like that.
Read the UNHCR comments in various press releases.
Read the UNHCR comments in various press releases.
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Godwin's Law invoked. All future vlad arguments rendered invalid as a result.
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Hitler was not a welcome member of the human race . UNHCR have welcomed Saudi Arabia into the clan.vladimir wrote:Hitler was a member of the human race. It doesn't mean we are all like that.
Read the UNHCR comments in various press releases.
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it's going to take me awhile to read through all this thread and consider my own opinions and those of others, but right away I'd like to say that there's a mix of emotive sub topics in this first post. I may need to lie down before starting this thread.What Your Name? wrote:The Australian immigration policy has to be the joke of the century. Boat people who endevour to land on Australian shores are escorted to detention centres on Christmas Island, Nauru or Manis Island(Papua New Guinea), never mainland Australia. The Australian government sees fit to 'bribe' these countries, at exhorbitant cost, to 'temporarily' house them until a re-location country can be found.
The Australian government has provided the Cambodian Government with entitlements of $A55m to repatriate the on forwarded asylum seekers. Now here's the punchline, so far 5 refugees have been sent, but 3 of those have opted to return to their countries of origin, leaving a remaining 2. In all, a costly exercise in the extreme, approx $10m per person, and a highly convoluted farcical solution.
Why should the Aussie taxpayer not see red?
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You have zero clue as to the history, situation or motives of any of the people involved.LaudJohn wrote:LTO has hit the nail on the head.
They are not really genuine refugees. It would appear that most are economic migrants hoping to circumvent the visa application process.
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Rubbish. They have tolerated them because of their natural resources, mostly at the bidding of the US/NATO members.Lucky Seven wrote:Hitler was not a welcome member of the human race . UNHCR have welcomed Saudi Arabia into the clan.vladimir wrote:Hitler was a member of the human race. It doesn't mean we are all like that.
Read the UNHCR comments in various press releases.
I seem to recall a few famous politicians saying what they would do to Saudi if they had no oil.
Political expedience does not equal acceptance.
You are starting a straw man argument. The issue is not about Saudi, or any other member of the UNHCR. It is about the report compiled and comments made by them and numerous other human rights organisations, which are mostly accepted by anybody with 2 brain cells or more.
The issue of their right to asylum aside, any fecker that thinks that the deal with Cambodia was above board is retarded, why all the secrecy, why all the denials, why all the lies? Are these the hallmarks of a transparent deal?
I wouldn't buy a used car from any member of the Australian government, worst in Australia's history I'd probably get a better deal from Mugabe.
And here's the rub, they're screwing their own country over as well, selling it and jobs from under your noses. Enjoy learning Chinese for your new owners/masters!
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