Mr Lovejuice wrote:image removedviolet wrote: When i want to keep something secret, I'm very good at it.
see, that's where you think you know all there is to know about me... but you would be wrong.
Post by violet » Wed May 04, 2016 5:40 pm
Mr Lovejuice wrote:image removedviolet wrote: When i want to keep something secret, I'm very good at it.
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Post by alanclarke72 » Fri May 06, 2016 9:22 am
Post by gavinmac » Fri May 06, 2016 9:29 am
I've never heard of this law or effects from it. Or maybe I did once and I forgot about it.After a law that cracked down on prostitution – and associated activities (advertising, transport, accommodation) – went into effect in 2008, commercial sex work was rebranded as “entertainment” and relocated: to karaoke and hostess bars, a move critics argue put women at greater risk. Remaining brothels were shuttered, and bars like the Walkabout – or, at one time, Sharky – fell into a grey area.
Post by jm » Fri May 06, 2016 9:51 am
Law on suppression of human trafficking and sexual exploitation, 2008. As has been brought up many times here, the law did not make prostitution per se illegal.gavinmac wrote:I've never heard of this law or effects from it. Or maybe I did once and I forgot about it.After a law that cracked down on prostitution – and associated activities (advertising, transport, accommodation) – went into effect in 2008, commercial sex work was rebranded as “entertainment” and relocated: to karaoke and hostess bars, a move critics argue put women at greater risk. Remaining brothels were shuttered, and bars like the Walkabout – or, at one time, Sharky – fell into a grey area.
Post by gavinmac » Fri May 06, 2016 9:57 am
Post by jm » Fri May 06, 2016 12:59 pm
I have not run regression analysis but I'd say you're right.gavinmac wrote:Did the law contribute to proliferation of hostess bars? I remember hostess bars appearing in late 2003/early 2004 with Rose Bar and then there were others on 104 and 108 and 51 before 2008. I always just attributed the explosion in hostess bars to increase in more white dudes arriving.
Post by LTO » Fri May 06, 2016 8:45 pm
That paragraph seems confused to me. I don't see any causal connection, or even a temporal connection between the enforcement of the anti-trafficing law that closed the brothels and the rise of hostess bars in Phnom Penh. Sharkys, Martinis and Walkabout did not fall into a grey area. (In fact I think the hostess bars fall into a grayer legal area than Walkabout.) There were always Cambodian clubs and karaoke place full of prostitutes, and still are. There are still bars aimed at barang that are full of prostitutes, but now they are hostess bars. I don't really know what lead to the rise of hostess bars in Phnom Penh except maybe the general 'normalization' of Cambodia, inluding the bar-with-girls scene. I thought of places like Martimis and Sharkys as barang oriented versions of the Cambodian nightclubs full of girls that always existed here, and the hostess bars as more tourist friendly Bangkok style bars.gavinmac wrote:I've never heard of this law or effects from it. Or maybe I did once and I forgot about it.After a law that cracked down on prostitution – and associated activities (advertising, transport, accommodation) – went into effect in 2008, commercial sex work was rebranded as “entertainment” and relocated: to karaoke and hostess bars, a move critics argue put women at greater risk. Remaining brothels were shuttered, and bars like the Walkabout – or, at one time, Sharky – fell into a grey area.