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Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:38 pm
by Lucky Lucan
Mr Lovejuice wrote:
scobienz wrote:What is wrong with the teachers having to pay for their own police clearance check? It is standard practice in most industries where they are needed. You simply apply online, you pay something trifling like 22 quid and it arrives a couple of weeks later. You are issued with a certificate that (hopefully) says you have had no convictions since the age of 16. It can then be used for all future school applications. No involvement of the school. No involvement of agents. No involvement of Khmers at all.

It seems pretty reasonable to me. No certificate, no chance of working with children. Simple.
Your ignoring the fact that, at least in Vietnam's case, you need to have one from your country of residence the year before you apply for the job. If you were living in Cambodia for a year before going to Vietnam, you would need one from the Cambodian police, which IMO, means it's worthless. The cops will just take some money for a clean one. It's farcical and I was surprised to find out that that was the law.

Of course, they could be progressive and ask for a CRC from the country of birth as well as the last country of residence. But when have you known the CPP to be progressive?
I'm pretty sure that it's the CPV you should take this up with.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:23 pm
by Mr Lovejuice
vladimir wrote:
Anyway, my position is clear, even if it costs me, I welcome it, as one poster has already said, it will drive out a lot of the fiddlers, and possibly result in higher wages.

However, I do feel that they should demand it of everyone who is working, access to kids is really easy even outside schools, and one does not have to teach to be a paedo. It's not just paedos, either. Loads of people with quite serious criminal records here for other stuff.
I wasn't suggesting that 50% of teachers here had convictions for sex abuse. I was saying that 50% have criminal records. If it is a small offense from long ago they can seek a Pardon through their own Government. Apparently it works.
Hi I’m interested in coming to Vietnam to teach. I am Irish and started the TEFL course.
The only problem is I’ve 2 convictions for cannabis when I was younger.

Do you think I would still get a job if they do a background check? Any information would be appreciated...

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Reply from Travel-Budget-Asia.com

Too many things have changed lately to the code of the law for me to give you an exact answer. Then there are different codes of law for different countries.

Most countries have 3 levels of criminal categories. Level one, two and three.

Level 3 is usually any felony offenses like rape, murder, manslaughter, armed robbery etc. Level 2 is usually for people that got bumped down from a level one because they have helped or contributed to the prosecution. The rest is white collar crime like Bernard and his Ponzi scheme.

The problem is that some offenses are sneaking into felony class when before they were misdemeanors only.

If you are caught with one bag of Ganja then it is "Personal Use" and you will get a misdemeanor but if you are caught with 10 pounds of Ganja, ready to be sold in separate bags, then you are trafficking.

Either way, schools use a class 3 application for criminal information about you. This is asking for Class 1 felonies only.

The police department that will write up the level 3 report are to include information that falls under class 1 felonies and adds NO information about 2nd or 3rd class offenses.

I would go there to Vietnam first and deal with this bridge when you cross it. It could be 2 years before they ask you to do a criminal report. If they ask you to do a criminal report just make sure they want to know only that you are not a serial rapist.

I would recommend that you seek a Pardon through your own Government, though. I did. I had a small conviction and had it Pardoned by my government and it has since been wiped from my record.
- See more at: http://www.travel-budget-asia.com/worki ... mYXkZ.dpuf

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:00 am
by almafudd
Suspected US Child Abuser Deported
Following his arrest, Mr. Erdmann claimed in a forum on the website Khmer440.com that he was not in custody and posted a photograph of himself eating breakfast in an open-air setting in an attempt to prove it.

https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/susp ... ed-111854/

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:08 am
by Alexandra
“We already deported him. We escorted him onto the plane and his plane left at 5:30,” Major Gen-eral Heisela said, adding that Mr. Erdmann was no longer welcome in Cambodia.
There is no 5:30 plane according to http://www.cambodia-airports.aero/fligh ... departures

The first morning flight is 6:15 to Bangkok, perhaps it departed early or the police doesn't know the difference between boarding and departure times.
On Monday, however, he said he no longer wished to speak about his arrest.

“I’m not answering any more questions. I want to be left alone,” he said.
Prepare your anus Eric, you won't be alone for a long time!

Bless

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:21 am
by Jamie_Lambo
Alexandra wrote:
“We already deported him. We escorted him onto the plane and his plane left at 5:30,” Major Gen-eral Heisela said, adding that Mr. Erdmann was no longer welcome in Cambodia.
There is no 5:30 plane according to http://www.cambodia-airports.aero/fligh ... departures

The first morning flight is 6:15 to Bangkok, perhaps it departed early or the police doesn't know the difference between boarding and departure times.
On Monday, however, he said he no longer wished to speak about his arrest.

“I’m not answering any more questions. I want to be left alone,” he said.
Prepare your anus Eric, you won't be alone for a long time!

Bless
maybe you dont know the difference between afternoon and morning lol
Uk Heisela, chief of investigations at the Interior Ministry’s immigration department, said Eric Erdmann, 43, boarded a late afternoon flight bound for Doha, Qatar, where he would be met by U.S. authorities and accompanied to his home country.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:24 am
by Alexandra
Yep, my bad, I assumed military time.

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Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:30 pm
by gavinmac
Under what circumstances will the embassy tattle on its citizens that have expired passports and visas?

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:52 pm
by Kampong Blues
Could the Wisconsin/Oregon mix up have been caused by both States having a Milwaukee/Milwaukie? According to the CD, he was charged in Multnomah County, which, sure enough, is where part of Milwaukie is located.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:03 pm
by gavinmac
Alexandra wrote: There is no 5:30 plane according to http://www.cambodia-airports.aero/fligh ... departures
If he's flying to Doha, he's going through Saigon. Qatar Airways flies PNH-SGN-DOH as a "direct" route. There does appear to be a 5:30 p.m. flight from Phnom Penh to Saigon.

I wonder why they are sending him home via Qatar and having US agents meet him there. As far as I can tell, the USA has no extradition agreement with Qatar.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:12 pm
by Alexandra
There is no risk he will flee. His passport expires within 6 months so nobody will issue him a visa. America will get him just fine without extradition treaties at this point.

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Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:42 pm
by LTO
gavinmac wrote:
Alexandra wrote:There is no 5:30 plane according to http://www.cambodia-airports.aero/fligh ... departures
If he's flying to Doha, he's going through Saigon. Qatar Airways flies PNH-SGN-DOH as a "direct" route. There does appear to be a 5:30 p.m. flight from Phnom Penh to Saigon.

I wonder why they are sending him home via Qatar and having US agents meet him there. As far as I can tell, the USA has no extradition agreement with Qatar.
Regardless of what the authorities say, this assumes he is being "sent" somewhere and is not just going home of his own volition since he likely has a limited passport and can no longer travel or get visas.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:55 pm
by gavinmac
I wonder if he took his laptop with him. That would be dumb if it's got more kiddie porn on it, as they may try to seize and search his phone and laptop when he arrives in the USA.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:10 am
by Felgerkarb
gavinmac wrote:Under what circumstances will the embassy tattle on its citizens that have expired passports and visas?
When the citizen is a piece of shit.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:26 am
by gavinmac
Felgerkarb wrote:
When the citizen is a piece of shit.
William Bryan Glenn wasn't a sex offender, his U.S. arrest warrant was drug related. The embassy ratted him out to the Khmers.

I wonder how the embassy staff decides which American expats are pieces of shit and which ones aren't. I think it depends if it's a felony warrant. Vic Boyle has that misdemeanor assault warrant from Florida for attacking a guy with a lawn chair and no one has deported him.

Re: American expat Eric Erdmann arrested in Phnom Penh on visa charges - Khmer media report it as child sex offence arrest

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:29 am
by Felgerkarb
Make trouble here and your name is known in the embassy as a problem American, your days are numbered if you have a warrant.