Should over-the-counter opiates be banned in Cambodian pharmacies?
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- Jumped Up Little Oik
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Should over-the-counter opiates be banned in Cambodian pharmacies?
Every month we hear about more deaths of expats, usually reported as due to heart attacks. These deaths are not restricted solely to the over 50's as one would think. Young, seemingly healthy, men in their 20's have died with all too regular frequency from heart attacks as well. A lot of expats usually ascribe these deaths to over the counter medicine easily available in Cambodia for a few dollars or even cents.
These drugs are highly restricted prescription medicines in the countries where a lot of the deceased come from.
Opiates such as Codeine, Oxycontin and Tramadol etc can cause death on overdose amounts, or even less, when mixed with alchohol which is also incredible cheap in Cambodia. A bottle of Mekong whisky goes for around a dollar.
However, it is not often that I have read about Cambodians dying in similar circumstances, although one would presume that they do.
Do you think that all such drugs should be controlled in much the same way as over the counter "uppers" such as Dexedrine etc are already?
If not, why not?
These drugs are highly restricted prescription medicines in the countries where a lot of the deceased come from.
Opiates such as Codeine, Oxycontin and Tramadol etc can cause death on overdose amounts, or even less, when mixed with alchohol which is also incredible cheap in Cambodia. A bottle of Mekong whisky goes for around a dollar.
However, it is not often that I have read about Cambodians dying in similar circumstances, although one would presume that they do.
Do you think that all such drugs should be controlled in much the same way as over the counter "uppers" such as Dexedrine etc are already?
If not, why not?
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It's not a question of should they be controlled; it's more a question of how, and would they? You've been in the country a long time so you know such debates are academic and the reality is that it will continue irrespective of any change of laws.
Just last week, pharmacies were being criticised for selling government distributed free HIV medication donated here by the Global Fund. It's assumed that the Central Medical Stores illegally sold this to pharmacies.
Just last week, pharmacies were being criticised for selling government distributed free HIV medication donated here by the Global Fund. It's assumed that the Central Medical Stores illegally sold this to pharmacies.
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Yes, of course normally I would agree with that view except for my point about "uppers" already being controlled. So, they must have some sort of mechanism in place to restrict certain drugs.alanclarke72 wrote:It's not a question of should they be controlled; it's more a question of how, and would they? You've been in the country a long time so you know such debates are academic and the reality is that it will continue irrespective of any change of laws.
Just last week, pharmacies were being criticised for selling government distributed free HIV medication donated here by the Global Fund. It's assumed that the Central Medical Stores illegally sold this to pharmacies.
Westerners die all the time in their own country from overdoses, even over the counter drugs - which is why you're restricted in the amount you buy. Or during from other afflictions, cancer, diabetes, heart issues etc etc.
Its only because its a barang that we read about it here. Khmer die all the time but its not news as we would not talk about it.
Should they be banned?
No. If you don't like it go back home. Its not our decision.
I don't buy opiates and overdose and nor do any if the people I know. If someone chooses to do it deliberately then that's up to them. I'm glad they can find the release and be a peace.
Its only because its a barang that we read about it here. Khmer die all the time but its not news as we would not talk about it.
Should they be banned?
No. If you don't like it go back home. Its not our decision.
I don't buy opiates and overdose and nor do any if the people I know. If someone chooses to do it deliberately then that's up to them. I'm glad they can find the release and be a peace.
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What do think would happen if uppers were made legal over-the-counter in pharmacies here? Apart from the huge loss in government, army and police revenue that is?Alexandra wrote:Survival of the fittest. This is not your nanny state.
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People with ADHD would finally get a humane access to their medication and be able to live normal lives. You can still get them with a prescription but you need to import yourself.Mr Lovejuice wrote:What do think would happen if uppers were made legal over-the-counter in pharmacies here? Apart from the huge loss in government, army and police revenue that is?
Methamphetamines are not available over the counter nor are they illegal, yet those who want to ruin their lives on ice have no problems doing so. Laws prevent law abiding citizens.
When Portugal decriminalized all drugs, drug use and drug-induced death declined. It's not really a matter of opinion. The war on drugs doesn't work.
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The prices of real pharmaceuticals are too high for most Cambodians even when they get sick. It is little to no surprise that Cambodian drug addicts can't afford them and instead turn to cheaper and stronger street drugs such as opium and crystal methamphetamine.Mr Lovejuice wrote:However, it is not often that I have read about Cambodians dying in similar circumstances, although one would presume that they do.
Likewise, it makes more sense that touristing barangs would turn to pharmacies. Where else can they score drugs reliably and easily? The prices here are still lower than in pharmacies in the West. Why would tourists buy unidentifiable pills from strangers on the street when they can buy properly labelled and price tagged pills and still get them cheaper?
Cambodians die of hard and dirty street drugs because they can't afford pharmacies. Tourist barangs die of pharmaceuticals because they buy their drugs from pharmacies. It makes little sense to do statistical comparison when the two groups are so different.
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In my years as an addict, just a few years ago, i went to my doctor, he had a very eager pen, i went out with a prescription for 4 boxes of Xanax 2mg, 100pcs/box, 2 boxes of Valium 10mg, and some Lorazepam or so, i went straight to the pharmacy to buy my freshly scored stuff all at once...YaTingPom wrote:Westerners die all the time in their own country from overdoses, even over the counter drugs - which is why you're restricted in the amount you buy. .
Edit: And then i went straight home to have a nap because i got a bit tired and sleepy understandably...
Disclaimer:Reading Khminglish can cause a persistent and seriously disturbed perception of reality...
Now I understand why some translations don't make much senseAnd then i went straight home to have a nap because i got a bit tired and sleepy understandably...
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logos wrote:Now I understand why some translations don't make much senseAnd then i went straight home to have a nap because i got a bit tired and sleepy understandably...
Disclaimer:Reading Khminglish can cause a persistent and seriously disturbed perception of reality...
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Opium - is it readily available on the street and cheap and used by Cambodians ??Alexandra wrote: The prices of real pharmaceuticals are too high for most Cambodians even when they get sick. It is little to no surprise that Cambodian drug addicts can't afford them and instead turn to cheaper and stronger street drugs such as opium and crystal methamphetamine.
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I don't believe it is. Heroin is though.Stagger Lee wrote:Opium - is it readily available on the street and cheap and used by Cambodians ??Alexandra wrote: The prices of real pharmaceuticals are too high for most Cambodians even when they get sick. It is little to no surprise that Cambodian drug addicts can't afford them and instead turn to cheaper and stronger street drugs such as opium and crystal methamphetamine.
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