At a social function recently (in Australia) I ran into a good-looking Cambodian lady, who said she is a recent widow to a local Aussie (but a very recent marriage). Aside from that, very quiet on details. I was a little surprised about the car she drives and more surprised about her open (un-Asian style) friendlyness.
Her closest friend had been living in the UK, married to an Englishman but now divorced and back in Cambodia. She was even more silent on her present activities. Apparently not permitted to remain in the UK.
Having checked out their facebook accounts it was apparent they are fashion-conscious classy 'good-time ladies', and thought they might be retired-bargirls... lol.
Where do retired bar girls go?
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Posted on that other board a couple of years ago:
Just visiting with a VN girl here in the States I knew a bit in Cambodia. Used to talk to her and her barang beau in Sharky's a few years back. 25-year gap between them. They married, had a kid, she travelled the world with him to his various postings, returning to Cambodia in between contracts for R&R. My wife just happened to find her on FB while we were here in the States, talked to her a bit, turned out she was sort of nearby so we drove over to see them.
Turns out her husband died almost three years ago at 59. He was perfectly healthy, one day had a bit of pain in his gut, went to the doctor and turned up with pancreatic cancer. He was dead three weeks later. Left her very well fixed - two houses in the States, a very hefty bank account, a couple of luxury cars, SSI coming in every month for the kid. Financially, she is set for life. She had her green card, and worked to get her citizenship, which she did. She told me the story of his death and all that they had done, choking on her words, fighting back tears unsuccessfully. A photo of him sits on the table in her living room. Two years after his death her friends tried fixing her up with other guys, not that she needed a new man for financial reasons, but she didn't like any of them. About a year ago she started dating some new guy, 20+ years her senior. Now they live together. He has a young kid from a previous marriage and she is working to raise both hers and his now, as well as going to nursing school (and, of course, moonlighting doing nails.) She says she's beginning to relax a little again, doesn't think about her dead husband so much anymore, but still misses him terribly when her 4am courage fails her.
Love comes in many forms. Sometimes sorry to see the judgmental assholes the West breeds, full of themselves and contempt for anybody who doesn't see and do things their narrow way.
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Unrelated to that story, I was just thinking about this the other day. Three weeks ago a taxi girl I have known for 22 years called me at 3AM. I hadn't talked to her in a while but see her on 51 every once in a while. When I first met her in 94 she was 17 and one of the two regular taxi girls at the heart. She called me because it was her birthday, she had just turned 40 and wanted me to come to the little party she was having at some bar on 51. (Yes, I know that the math isn't quite perfect, but niether is the way they count years.) It was late and I didn't go. But I realized that many of the girls that I knew back then were around 40 now, give or take a year or two. 40. Wow. Some have disappeared, some have died, a few others have done okay for themselves. Of the group I sort of knew in Sihanoukville in the 90s (and some of their friends), 2 moved back to Vietnam, 4 married barang and are in Europe and America, one married some Vietnamese guy, moved to Hanoi and is now divorced and back in Phnom Penh alone, one has disappeared, one was murdered in Sihanoukville in the early 00s, and two died, one of hep, the other AIDS. There were probably others, but I didn't know them well and don't know whatever became of them.
Just visiting with a VN girl here in the States I knew a bit in Cambodia. Used to talk to her and her barang beau in Sharky's a few years back. 25-year gap between them. They married, had a kid, she travelled the world with him to his various postings, returning to Cambodia in between contracts for R&R. My wife just happened to find her on FB while we were here in the States, talked to her a bit, turned out she was sort of nearby so we drove over to see them.
Turns out her husband died almost three years ago at 59. He was perfectly healthy, one day had a bit of pain in his gut, went to the doctor and turned up with pancreatic cancer. He was dead three weeks later. Left her very well fixed - two houses in the States, a very hefty bank account, a couple of luxury cars, SSI coming in every month for the kid. Financially, she is set for life. She had her green card, and worked to get her citizenship, which she did. She told me the story of his death and all that they had done, choking on her words, fighting back tears unsuccessfully. A photo of him sits on the table in her living room. Two years after his death her friends tried fixing her up with other guys, not that she needed a new man for financial reasons, but she didn't like any of them. About a year ago she started dating some new guy, 20+ years her senior. Now they live together. He has a young kid from a previous marriage and she is working to raise both hers and his now, as well as going to nursing school (and, of course, moonlighting doing nails.) She says she's beginning to relax a little again, doesn't think about her dead husband so much anymore, but still misses him terribly when her 4am courage fails her.
Love comes in many forms. Sometimes sorry to see the judgmental assholes the West breeds, full of themselves and contempt for anybody who doesn't see and do things their narrow way.
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Unrelated to that story, I was just thinking about this the other day. Three weeks ago a taxi girl I have known for 22 years called me at 3AM. I hadn't talked to her in a while but see her on 51 every once in a while. When I first met her in 94 she was 17 and one of the two regular taxi girls at the heart. She called me because it was her birthday, she had just turned 40 and wanted me to come to the little party she was having at some bar on 51. (Yes, I know that the math isn't quite perfect, but niether is the way they count years.) It was late and I didn't go. But I realized that many of the girls that I knew back then were around 40 now, give or take a year or two. 40. Wow. Some have disappeared, some have died, a few others have done okay for themselves. Of the group I sort of knew in Sihanoukville in the 90s (and some of their friends), 2 moved back to Vietnam, 4 married barang and are in Europe and America, one married some Vietnamese guy, moved to Hanoi and is now divorced and back in Phnom Penh alone, one has disappeared, one was murdered in Sihanoukville in the early 00s, and two died, one of hep, the other AIDS. There were probably others, but I didn't know them well and don't know whatever became of them.
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the lucky ones married
some became Mamasans
some ( if they were smart and got a little $$) opened beauty salons
some go back to the village
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
some became Mamasans
some ( if they were smart and got a little $$) opened beauty salons
some go back to the village
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
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thats similar to another quote i like...Phuket2006 wrote:
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
"Life passes most people by whilst they are making grand plans for it"
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im probs still to young to know that many bar girls who are actually retired,
i know a few that have got in and out, and are now married, some back to the village,
others that are on hiatus with a current boyfriend, but as most know, if that doesnt work out, they will end up making their way back to the bar
i know a few that have got in and out, and are now married, some back to the village,
others that are on hiatus with a current boyfriend, but as most know, if that doesnt work out, they will end up making their way back to the bar
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