[quote="PSD_Kiwi"] Depends on your original country of citizenship, some don't allow dual-citizenship. Cambodia allows dual citizenship, so if your original country of citizenship allows it then you'd have the best of both.[/quote]
Forgive me, I may be wrong, however, its usually the country granting citizenship that makes that decision. Some countries will not grant citizenship if you will hold your previous one and make you relinquish it. Its not the other way around, how can that work?
#$%^^$! why are these quotes not working? ADMIN?
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I wouldn't want to be in a position where I've spent $50,000 on illegitimate papers only for the government to crackdown on illegitimate papers two years later. Good luck with the illegal family book and passport without an okhna status. Barang_doa_slae can tell us all about itPSD_Kiwi wrote:Barang Doa Slae...when are you going to finally tell us how you acquired your Cambodian citizenship?
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When you go through the process legitimately, you do not only get a family book and passport, you also get a royal proclamation and the equivalent of a birth certificate. That is what separates the illegitimate documents from legitimate ones.
Nobody has the authority to say a royal proclamation is illegitimate. Once that is signed, that is it.
The prakas that Barang_doa_slae mentions above is the recording of that royal proclamation.
Nobody has the authority to say a royal proclamation is illegitimate. Once that is signed, that is it.
The prakas that Barang_doa_slae mentions above is the recording of that royal proclamation.
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I don't think we can compare a case like Geraldine Cox's to any of our own. She lived here as a nurse during the 1970-75 war, and came back as soon as she could to set up her own organization. She spent years at loggerheads with the government before she earned their respect and got an honorary citizenship. Until you make a similar outstanding contribution here you're never getting on that list.
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Alexandra wrote:I wouldn't want to be in a position where I've spent $50,000 on illegitimate papers only for the government to crackdown on illegitimate papers two years later. Good luck with the illegal family book and passport without an okhna status. Barang_doa_slae can tell us all about itPSD_Kiwi wrote:Barang Doa Slae...when are you going to finally tell us how you acquired your Cambodian citizenship?
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I thank you for that hasty assumptions filled post conveniently pointing the finger at the interesting “what sort of official documents makes one legally Cambodian?” question.
Any Cambodian citizen should possess or be mentioned in a family book as well as in the lesser known and used residence book. With these and provincial level officialised copies of a state issued birth certificate and [edit from or as monomial rightly reminded me] a praka granting citizenship one can obtain the usual ID documents. With the later others legal documents such as land titles and voter ID also become available.
The vast majority of fake ID’s are materially very legit having been issued by sangkat authorities to applicants not fulfilling all the legal requirements. That would mostly concern families of Vietnamese post war era immigrants as well as early arrived or returned Chinese and the odd Koreans or other Asian descent residents, even a few first and second post war generations Khmers from abroad albeit for different specific reasons.
The so called fake documents are usually limited to resident books and ID cards, less frequently to family books. Regarding ID cards most were issued before the early 00’s as the process became computerized to match a national data base for the past two designs.
I can't comment about you not wanting to feel gullible in that falling for some expat rumor priced costly scam day dream of yours but luckily from day one, life quickly would provides plenty of occasions (such as issuing a first sangkat residency and any later change of residence, various ID or licenses reissuing, voting, land titling, getting married, children birth, managing businesses or companies etc.) for administration officials to review your status before more luck brings a state attorney to inform you about the national penal law and the sanctions it provides for the use of a false identity in official matters
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@ Lucky Lucan...That was just an example about the Royal Decrees been made publicly available, if you know the name of anyone else who has been awarded citizenship then you would be able to search for the Royal Decree for that persons citizenship also. Anyone who has been awarded citizenship would be able to prove it this way, even if all their docs were lost in a house fire or something.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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Article 14:PSD_Kiwi wrote:Where on earth did you hear that rubbish Raendi? Having children with a Cambodian citizen does not entitle a foreigner to apply for citizenship.raendi wrote:Or children with Cambodian Citizen..PSD_Kiwi wrote:Or 3 years married, officially in Cambodia, and living together in Cambodia, with a Cambodian Citizen.Tano wrote:If I understand correctly a 'long time' is a minimum of seven years plus a good command of the Khmer language?
Law on Nationality: http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6b5210.htmlA foreigner who has a spouse or child/children of under 18 years of age, who also intend(s) to apply for Khmer nationality/ citizenship, may file an application for naturalization in term as a family as a whole.
A family consists of a husband, wife and child/children of under 18 years old.
And yes, i've been there and asking this - it's ok without wife.
Pardon my engrish, thanks you.
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Raendi, I’m pretty sure you are misunderstanding this article. I read it very differently to you.raendi wrote:Article 14:PSD_Kiwi wrote:Where on earth did you hear that rubbish Raendi? Having children with a Cambodian citizen does not entitle a foreigner to apply for citizenship.raendi wrote:Or children with Cambodian Citizen..PSD_Kiwi wrote:Or 3 years married, officially in Cambodia, and living together in Cambodia, with a Cambodian Citizen.Tano wrote:If I understand correctly a 'long time' is a minimum of seven years plus a good command of the Khmer language?Law on Nationality: http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6b5210.htmlA foreigner who has a spouse or child/children of under 18 years of age, who also intend(s) to apply for Khmer nationality/ citizenship, may file an application for naturalization in term as a family as a whole.
A family consists of a husband, wife and child/children of under 18 years old.
And yes, i've been there and asking this - it's ok without wife.
That's not how I read it either, that is referring to foreign families, who meet the requirements to apply for citizenship. Children born to a Cambodian citizen are citizens by birth automatically and do not need to go through the application process.
Just having children to a Cambodian citizen doesn't make you eligible for citizenship.
Just having children to a Cambodian citizen doesn't make you eligible for citizenship.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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