Hey! I was walking passed GSM and I saw a guy reading the PPP. I overheard him saying that someone, who was reading the CD, had told him there were a lot of lady boys about. About the same time I heard him asking where the toilets were, and someone else said at the back. I did a quick brain edit.aem wrote:Slightly ot
Cambodia Daily criticised for misquoting GSM expat
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Oh Gavin, Scobienz.is right.scobienz wrote:gavinmac wrote:Oh, lighten up. The CD didn't fabricate quotes from the guy to push some agenda.scobienz wrote:The interesting point here is Colin Meyn's excuse about the meaning of his quotes being changed in the editing process. What is that all about?
The guy said he told the journalist that he had no interest in retiring to Cambodia and yet the article is published with the line that he is considering retiring to Cambodia. That's not editing; that's a complete change from what was said. Colin Meyn suggests the story as it was originally submitted was accurate, but editing changed it.
Editing didn't just change it; they totally fabricated stuff to suit the story they wanted to appear, complete with colourful and oh so slyly insinuating interjections that he was eating schnitzel. Fuck they might as well have said he was tattooed and wearing a wifebeater - it's the same impact.
OK, it's not Khmer Times plagiarism, but it's pretty shoddy journalism nonetheless.
By the guy's own admission, he sat at a table drinking in a notorious sleaze pit, gave a journalist his real name, and then proceeded to ramble about "If I were to retire next year, and if I chose Cambodia, I would go for a business visa so I could work here and there and not get bored."
Now he's outraged that the press quoted him as saying he was thinking of retiring in Cambodia.
Reporters generally write up some of what rambling people say, then editors shorten that further to meet word count restrictions. If his musings about the best way to retire in Cambodia were going to ruin his marriage, he should have kept them to himself.
The next time you produce a story for 440 complete with the pages and pages of obsessive detailed directives on FB Messenger of how it should be laid out, which words must be boldened and which underlined and how it's absolutely imperative not a single word is changed I will refer back to this advice and simply rewrite your words to something completely different.
You say the CD weren't trying to push an agenda - but yes they were. They are putting out salacious stories to sell.more copies.
By his own admission he was sitting in a notorious sleaze pit? Ha. Guy goes for a walk on 51 and stops for a drink - water , beer or whatever. Does he have any intent to do anything else other than refresh his thirst? Surely even you have sat in a sleazy pit and had a drink in a naive desire to slake your thirst? What about your adventures in Africa?
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How do you know he was rambling if he was simply answering a question put to him by a journalist?
How can you infer that he was thinking of retiring in Cambodia if he merely responded to a query in a speculative manner?
Doesn't appear that he was doing anything other than having a drink. A guy befriends him and asks him a few questions which he innocently answers. Wasn't breaking no laws. Wasn't hurting anyone. But you think it's fair game to portray him as someone unworthy and reprehensible?
His story was entirely plausible. Tourist in a tourist hot spot having a beer on a visa run and just being chatty. Or are we missing something?
Reminds me of the time i woke up naked in a ktv/brothel/squat in Rangoon and people made up the most horrible stories of how i got there etc.....
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@just robbed - how was he portrayed as unworthy and reprehensible? They simply reported that he was sitting at GSM and contemplating retirement in Cambodia, which doesn't seem unreasonable to me since he was sitting at GSM and discussing at length what course of action he would follow if he retired in Cambodia.
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But he wasn't. He clearly told the CD journalist that he wasn't interested in retiring in Cambodia. Why, then, did they deliberately reverse his statement?gavinmac wrote: They simply reported that he was sitting at GSM and contemplating retirement in Cambodia.
You two really are the Oscar and Felix of 440scobienz wrote:But he wasn't. He clearly told the CD journalist that he wasn't interested in retiring in Cambodia. Why, then, did they deliberately reverse his statement?gavinmac wrote: They simply reported that he was sitting at GSM and contemplating retirement in Cambodia.
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
Or the Siegfried and Roy?Stramash wrote:You two really are the Oscar and Felix of 440scobienz wrote:But he wasn't. He clearly told the CD journalist that he wasn't interested in retiring in Cambodia. Why, then, did they deliberately reverse his statement?gavinmac wrote: They simply reported that he was sitting at GSM and contemplating retirement in Cambodia.
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Or Ant and Dec.Edwardo wrote:Or the Siegfried and Roy?Stramash wrote:You two really are the Oscar and Felix of 440scobienz wrote:But he wasn't. He clearly told the CD journalist that he wasn't interested in retiring in Cambodia. Why, then, did they deliberately reverse his statement?gavinmac wrote: They simply reported that he was sitting at GSM and contemplating retirement in Cambodia.
The possibilities are endless
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No one deliberately reversed his statement. The reporter accurately wrote up his lengthy ramblings about what he thought would be the best way to retire in Cambodia, the editor then not unreasonably assumed the guy was considering retiring in Cambodia and just shortened it to say that, and then Scobienz had a hissy fit claiming that the CD has an evil agenda to falsify stories to smear GSM patrons as intended retirees.scobienz wrote:But he wasn't. He clearly told the CD journalist that he wasn't interested in retiring in Cambodia. Why, then, did they deliberately reverse his statement?gavinmac wrote: They simply reported that he was sitting at GSM and contemplating retirement in Cambodia.
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^ You used to be cool before CD took you for lunch and stroked your ego about the Khmer Times story ^
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Nonsense, he was never cool.scobienz wrote:^ You used to be cool before CD took you for lunch and stroked your ego about the Khmer Times story ^
Although he might seem 'cool for cats' from your grumpy old man perspective
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Thats what Scooby and his team of experts do man, they digs your posting histories and quote you on it. The bitching I seem to get from the OP is his story published in a newspaper when was at GMS he wanted to retire in Cambodia which he didnt mean it! Whoops! His intention was in Vietnam and his Vietnamese gf/SO wasnt happy about it. Because his significant other thought he will be retired in Vietnam instead of GMS, and she found out whats the fuck up after she learned from from the Cambodia Daily or/and from the honest cop confession. Now the New South Wale cop life is totally ruin, I feel for you. Ganzberg up!
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Thank you for the summary. I had problems understanding this complicated scenario.
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Jesus Phat, you're being a bit rough calling him a copper from New South Wales, dear old Lindsay is a proud walloper from the Territory, the Alice in fact. Never knew his name before this article, only know him by sight and have listened to some of his utterings from a nearby table at times, well it must be him, there can't be two of them. Wouldn't blame the CD too much, the bloke loves to talk, half the time I don't think he knows what he's saying as long as words are flowing forth. I'd say he probably did say what the CD originally printed, probably a lot more, and then forgot all about it.
One of his friends has told me he does have a Vietnamese wife back in Alice Springs, was causing him a little heartburn according to him. Been drifting in and out of town for maybe the last 5-6 years at a guess. The same friend said he went back to the Alice about six weeks ago so maybe things are all rosy again. Oh, that's right, he apparently left a bit lighter being caught for the old have a shower trick on the day of leaving.
One of his friends has told me he does have a Vietnamese wife back in Alice Springs, was causing him a little heartburn according to him. Been drifting in and out of town for maybe the last 5-6 years at a guess. The same friend said he went back to the Alice about six weeks ago so maybe things are all rosy again. Oh, that's right, he apparently left a bit lighter being caught for the old have a shower trick on the day of leaving.
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