I actually thought he came across as rather angry. Probably to do with the PM's reaction to all the international criticism and not wanting to support the anniversary of the agreement that in some ways consolidated his power. When people are angry they tend to tell you what they really think. Just like the PM.Joon wrote:You see truth, I see hot air bravado. These are just words that don't convince anyone and don't contribute a dime to change within the country.
Nate Thayer speaks out on Cambodia
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From a logical point of view, someone speaking hot air bravado does not mean that what they are speaking of is untrue. Change within the country depends on enough people getting sick of untruth and doing something about it. I'd like to see that happen, but I'm not holding my breath. Again Nate's comments are prescient here.Joon wrote:You see truth, I see hot air bravado. These are just words that don't convince anyone and don't contribute a dime to change within the country.
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Plus, since when is he not a bona-fide, dead-set, caught-red-handed murderer?Joon wrote:You see truth, I see hot air bravado.
Again, I'm genuinely curious to know.
Every piece of evidence indicated that he was guilty as sin, and I guess I must have missed the exoneration.
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Honestly curious...on what exactly is he "way off the reservation" here? I didn't hear anything new. Cambodia is a French creation and KH leadership is shit? So what? More provocative things are said on 440. And what reservation? With all due respect to his 98 work, these days he's just some blogger in desperate need of a sub-editor. And is there any precedent at all for thinking some foreign yesteryear journo might face any actual real world danger in Cambodia for saying nasty things about Hun Sen? Doesn't happen to the people here now causing the government daily grief. Didnt happen to Michael for saying far worse for more than a decade. Didn't happen to Osborn for writing things about Sihanouk that, if said about the Thai King would put him in prison for years in Thailand. I just don't see it.shitegeist wrote:Nate is way, way off the reservation here, and good on him.
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as a former sub for the CD, I concur!
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I guess what I mean is that he is well outside the normal boundaries of civil journalism -- much further than either Michael or Milton would ever go. Look, I too think that Nate is a shit journalist who normally has a pretty sketchy relationship with the truth. In this case however (with the exception of the statement that no-one wants to pour any more money into Cambodia) I think that his very frank, blunt and negative assessment of Cambodian culture, society and history strikes pretty close to home. Maybe a little too close for some, but fuck them anyway.LTO wrote:Honestly curious...on what exactly is he "way off the reservation" here? I didn't hear anything new. Cambodia is a French creation and KH leadership is shit? So what? More provocative things are said on 440. And what reservation? With all due respect to his 98 work, these days he's just some blogger in desperate need of a sub-editor. And is there any precedent at all for thinking some foreign yesteryear journo might face any actual real world danger in Cambodia for saying nasty things about HE? Doesn't happen to the people here now causing the government daily grief. Didnt happen to Michael for saying far worse for more than a decade. Didn't happen to Osborn for writing things about Sihanouk that, if said about the Thai King would put him in prison for years in Thailand. I just don't see it.shitegeist wrote:Nate is way, way off the reservation here, and good on him.
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I only got around to watching that clip today. What's up with him? Much as I admire his tenacity and resolve and how he managed to interview Pol Pot when nobody else had for years (not the time period he keeps repeating, he constantly ignores the interview done by a Japanese journalist in 79/80).
He comes across as a butt-hurt loser in that clip. He slurs his words and uses profanity all the way through. If you check his replies on the comments, he just plain lies. He tells one Khmer that he lived here for nearly 20 years through the 80s and 90s, and has been here numerous times since. Those figures don't add up.
Besides all that, the points that he made were completely negated by his horrible comments about this country and its people. Some are astute enough, and while I agree that Cambodians have to admit to their own responsibilities for their current situation, he goes too far. This is someone who has written recently about how Henry Kissinger shouldn't be blamed for any problems here. He was always on the coalition of "democratic Kampuchea " side during the war. Good journalist in his time though, if he wasn't so obviously partisan.
He comes across as a butt-hurt loser in that clip. He slurs his words and uses profanity all the way through. If you check his replies on the comments, he just plain lies. He tells one Khmer that he lived here for nearly 20 years through the 80s and 90s, and has been here numerous times since. Those figures don't add up.
Besides all that, the points that he made were completely negated by his horrible comments about this country and its people. Some are astute enough, and while I agree that Cambodians have to admit to their own responsibilities for their current situation, he goes too far. This is someone who has written recently about how Henry Kissinger shouldn't be blamed for any problems here. He was always on the coalition of "democratic Kampuchea " side during the war. Good journalist in his time though, if he wasn't so obviously partisan.
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This.Lucky Lucan wrote:I only got around to watching that clip today. What's up with him? Much as I admire his tenacity and resolve and how he managed to interview Pol Pot when nobody else had for years (not the time period he keeps repeating, he constantly ignores the interview done by a Japanese journalist in 79/80).
He comes across as a butt-hurt loser in that clip. He slurs his words and uses profanity all the way through. If you check his replies on the comments, he just plain lies. He tells one Khmer that he lived here for nearly 20 years through the 80s and 90s, and has been here numerous times since. Those figures don't add up.
Besides all that, the points that he made were completely negated by his horrible comments about this country and its people. Some are astute enough, and while I agree that Cambodians have to admit to their own responsibilities for their current situation, he goes too far. This is someone who has written recently about how Henry Kissinger shouldn't be blamed for any problems here. He was always on the coalition of "democratic Kampuchea " side during the war. Good journalist in his time though, if he wasn't so obviously partisan.
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