Roger that. Thank you so much!scobienz wrote:The best advice has already been given CJ. Forget APLE and contact James McCabe at the Child Protection Unit. He has the resources and contacts to make things happen.
APLE; and the lack of decency with underage girls
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I knew this post would be a complete waste of time. I can't believe I wasted my time even bothering,LTO wrote:I still don't get the complaint about APLE. They answered the phone, they spoke English and they took all your info, yes? But you didn't like their attitude? Or something more? What more exactly were you expecting of them? Please state it clearly and specifically.Cadillac Jack wrote:Would you like to prove my point?LTO wrote:I'm leaning troll APLE-basher at this point. Doesn't read like a cop. Story doesn't seem consistent. But it is an important enough issue that I am willing to wait a bit more for him to clarify his complaint.gavinmac wrote:Are you guys thinking he's a troll or that he's shady as fuck and more complicit than he lets on?violet wrote:I want it on record I called it on page 1. Perhaps the OP will record it in his notebook.LTO wrote:There is something not right about this tale.
I can PM you and we can do the "investigation" step-by-step to MY standards, i.e. USA law enforcement standards for CPS.
I will guide you throughout the entire process and you will see how APLE simply doesn't give a s***.
Fair enough?
Trust me, I have turned more cases to Child Protective Services than I care to ever think of. Even if I'm old and tired, if I can get one more collar, what do say?
Do you want to help?
Yes, I have enjoyed the past 5 years that I have lurked in the shadows on this forum, I love the forum here, but I already knew that serious topics were just to be laughed at and mocked.
To answer your question, Sir, APLE was to give me decoy photos, i.e. photos of 12-year old girls to give to the prospective buyer, who by now has probably read this thread if he has any brains and has dumped his laptop in a river, as I would have done.
I know how to conduct a CPS case. Yes, specialists take over, but any decent detective can at least start the initials.
APLE couldn't even give the decoy photos. In fact, they couldn't even respond to emails let alone phone calls.
Even after 20+ phone calls, the only answer was, "Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, we can help, we can help", except 100% of the time it was nonsense. They were complete garbage.
Catching a child predator isn't exactly rocket science. 99% of child predators are sloppy.
The fact that APLE can't catch a child predator on a silver platter handed to them shows how pathetic they are.
And I will put my track record against theirs any day of the week.
I earned my paycheck back in the day.
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This Cadillac dude reminds me of an old joke.
"I've been chatting to a 14 year old girl on the internet and she's funny, sexy and very flirty.
Now she tells me she's an undercover cop………..How fucking cool is that at her age?"
"I've been chatting to a 14 year old girl on the internet and she's funny, sexy and very flirty.
Now she tells me she's an undercover cop………..How fucking cool is that at her age?"
My posts are just jokes, maybe they're rude, offensive, and politically incorrect. They're not my opinion, viewpoint, idea, or judgement, but they're just fucking jokes so lighten up.
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Cadillac Jack wrote: To answer your question, Sir, APLE was to give me decoy photos, i.e. photos of 12-year old girls to give to the prospective buyer
You contacted APLE and asked for photos of 12 year old Cambodian girls? And they just strung you along? The bastards.
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Oh and don’t most people that come on here with odd criticisms of APLE, turn out to be under suspicion for Paedophilia themselves?
My posts are just jokes, maybe they're rude, offensive, and politically incorrect. They're not my opinion, viewpoint, idea, or judgement, but they're just fucking jokes so lighten up.
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Go global, the more media attention the better imo.
Report it on the CNN Freedom Project online form.
http://edition.cnn.com/specials/world/freedom-project
Report it on the CNN Freedom Project online form.
http://edition.cnn.com/specials/world/freedom-project
It's never too late to be nice, unless you die.
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Wow. You guys are more pathetic than I thought.gavinmac wrote:He contacted APLE and asked for photos of 12 year old girls? And they just strung him along? The bastards.
I thought after 5 years of reading your bitching and moaning I would be immune but you never cease to amaze me.
How do you think cases are solved?
By magic?
Do you think you just walk into a room with a UV light and magically solve everything?
You guys are 10x's dumber than I ever could have imagined.
How do you think child predators are caught? And how many child predators you caught in your vast experience?
Geez, Vladimir might be a communist but at least he wasn't a bullshitter. You guys are pathetic.
p.s. APLE already agreed to send me decoy photos for the subject. So save your comments. That was the agreement. I worked as the middle-man, APLE provided the decoy photos until arrival of the subject.
Do you feel stupid now? Guess what? You have never been on an investigation in your entire life but you want to play internet Magnum P.I.
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And I bet, nor have you.Cadillac Jack wrote:Do you feel stupid now? Guess what? You have never been on an investigation in your entire life but you want to play internet Magnum P.I.
My posts are just jokes, maybe they're rude, offensive, and politically incorrect. They're not my opinion, viewpoint, idea, or judgement, but they're just fucking jokes so lighten up.
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Cadillac Jack wrote: p.s. APLE already agreed to send me decoy photos for the subject. So save your comments. That was the agreement. I worked as the middle-man, APLE provided the decoy photos until arrival of the subject.
Now I'm confused again. You initially complained that APLE stonewalled you and didn't give a shit. Now you're saying that they agreed to help you with your sting and provide you with photos of 12 year olds, despite that you have no authority to engage in law enforcement activities in Cambodia, based on your word that you are an ex-cop. That actually seems like reckless over-cooperation to me.
Can't you just go outside and take your own photos of 12 year olds? That's not creepy.
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We appreciate your suggestions. The 12-year old Cambodian population greatly appreciates your enthusiasm.Garry Crabtree wrote:And I bet, nor have you.Cadillac Jack wrote:Do you feel stupid now? Guess what? You have never been on an investigation in your entire life but you want to play internet Magnum P.I.
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Didn't Pete Townsend buy child pornography and claim he did it to prove that others were involved in wrongdoing?
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Good job!violet wrote:I want it on record I called it on page 1. Perhaps the OP will record it in his notebook.LTO wrote:There is something not right about this tale.
Sgt. Joe Friday would be proud of you
இ லொவெ ம்ய் டௌக்ஹ்டெர்ஸ் மொரெ தன் அன்ய்தின்க் இன் தெ வொர்ல்ட்
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Those are somewhat valid questions, but, no, you can't just take photos of random 12-year girls outside. That is a violation of privacy. You need consent from the parent for any minor's photo.gavinmac wrote:Cadillac Jack wrote: p.s. APLE already agreed to send me decoy photos for the subject. So save your comments. That was the agreement. I worked as the middle-man, APLE provided the decoy photos until arrival of the subject.
Now I'm confused again. You initially complained that APLE stonewalled you and didn't give a shit. Now you're saying that they agreed to help you with your sting and provide you with photos of 12 year olds, despite that you have authority to engage in law enforcement activities in Cambodia, based on your word that you are an ex-cop. That actually seems like reckless over-cooperation to me.
Can't you just go outside and take your own photos of 12 year olds? That's not creepy.
But, yes, APLE initially agreed to assist, to include sending the necessary decoy photos for 12-ish girls for the subject to review before purchase, but that was only a brief 2 minute phone call.
When I explained how a proper child predator case needed to be conducted they (APLE) simply stopped answering to emails and each phone call was met with a, "Ok, we will think about it." or the equivalent etc etc etc.
It was as if they just lost interest.
I was handing a child predator to them on a silver platter and they just didn't care. Which is ironic as I know they get their funding from their statistics. Who would turn down another busted child predator handed to them on a silver platter?
But by that point, the subject could have already been in Cambodia and, God knows, how many minors could have been affected.
And to all you idiotic perverts, child decoys are never nude. Have some decency. No police department in the world uses child decoys with nudes. They are always 100% fully clothed.
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No, you don't. You can photograph anything or anyone in public in the USA. Dumb cops sometimes claim it's illegal to take photos of this or that, but they're wrong. I'm not aware of Cambodia having any contrary laws requiring parental consent before photographing a minor, phuket2006 takes weird photos of shirtless kids all the time and he's never been arrested for it.Cadillac Jack wrote: Those are somewhat valid questions, but, no, you can't just take photos of random 12-year girls outside. That is a violation of privacy. You need consent from the parent for any minor's photo.
They didn't lose interest, they found you unbearable to deal with and didn't appreciate you telling them how to do their jobs. There's a difference.Cadillac Jack wrote: When I explained how a proper child predator case needed to be conducted they (APLE) simply stopped answering to emails and each phone call was met with a, "Ok, we will think about it." or the equivalent etc etc etc.
It was as if they just lost interest.
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